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#2880841 8-Mar-2022 08:56

UKR army is battle-hardened and stocked with regulars who are familiar with the land and their equipment. The red army is made up of conscripts serving their two year rotation, as is their NCO core.

I haven't seen anything about the service length of the RU air force (though logically they should have served longer and be more experienced thanks to Syria), but the UKR pilots have the advantage of having less of the terrain below them potentially containing infantry with anti-air capabilities. The RU air force is forced to fly defensively, and it is severely hampering their effectiveness.

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#2880850 8-Mar-2022 09:07

Interesting results from the latest random phone and social media poll of Russians by activist Alexey Minyaylo, regarding Putin's Special Military Operation in Ukraine.

Results: 59% support, 22% oppose, with trust in state media highly correlated to these positions.

That's down from 65% support just a week ago, and well below the Russian "Official" polls of 72% Russian approval (according to Associate Professor Nikita Savin from HSE University in Moscow)

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#2881106 8-Mar-2022 11:28

i don't understand why they don't just destroy the entire 65km convoy. are they not sitting ducks?

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#2881110 8-Mar-2022 11:40

Batman:

i don't understand why they don't just destroy the entire 65km convoy. are they not sitting ducks?

I think I read they have in places, but there is mud there this time of year, and while they are sitting ducks in what appears to be quite open land, so would anyone getting in range with a ground to ground tank missile

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#2881115 8-Mar-2022 11:50

Shell still giving blood money to Russia. They brought 100,000 metric tons of oil at a discounted rate Friday in article.

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/03/06/shell-defends-decision-to-buy-discounted-oil-from-russia.html

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#2881123 8-Mar-2022 11:59

and selling to NZ at massive profits?

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#2881124 8-Mar-2022 12:00

rugrat:

Shell still giving blood money to Russia. They brought 100,000 metric tons of oil at a discounted rate Friday in article.

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/03/06/shell-defends-decision-to-buy-discounted-oil-from-russia.html

That's a hard one. Has all oil and gas been shut down from Russia? In between that happening when a sanction is applied, oil and gas needs to be consumed while they look for alternate sources. Assuming that happens, they can avoid being more impacted, while the $ for a lag period wont be huge. I suspect gas has been flowing freely all along, who is to blame then?

Transition period IMO

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#2881127 8-Mar-2022 12:05

Boy, Has Russia grabbed a tiger by the tail. This is Trump-level stupid.

Is Russia about to NATIONALIZE Foreign Aircraft?

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Is the Russian government planning to nationalize the aircraft in Russian airlines who are leased from foreign lessors in order to protect the Russian aviation sector from the effects of sanctions? Today we will take a look at this and see what the signs are and what possible consequences might come from them.

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#2881135 8-Mar-2022 12:22

Batman:

i don't understand why they don't just destroy the entire 65km convoy. are they not sitting ducks?

They can probably reach some of it with the TB-2 drones, but they also have to be careful with them as they would be sitting ducks for Russian MANPADs.

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#2881142 8-Mar-2022 12:35

It seems that Trump's idea to use a "false flag", disguise an American F22 as a Chinese bomber, and attack Russia may have come from Fox News Sean Hannity.

The Guardian: Tucker Carlson leads rightwing charge to blame everyone but Putin

The Fox News host has defended the Russian leader’s invasion of Ukraine, saying ‘Has Putin ever called me a racist?’

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#2881149 8-Mar-2022 12:43

kingdragonfly: disguise an American F22 as a Chinese bomber,

Well, that should be easy, they look so much alike already.

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#2881150 8-Mar-2022 12:45

The GuardianOpinion: They are ‘civilised’ and ‘look like us’: the racist coverage of Ukraine

While on air, CBS News senior foreign correspondent Charlie D’Agata stated last week that Ukraine “isn’t a place, with all due respect, like Iraq or Afghanistan, that has seen conflict raging for decades. This is a relatively civilized, relatively European – I have to choose those words carefully, too – city, one where you wouldn’t expect that, or hope that it’s going to happen”.
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#2881211 8-Mar-2022 15:07

kingdragonfly: Is the Russian government planning to nationalize the aircraft in Russian airlines who are leased from foreign lessors in order to protect the Russian aviation sector from the effects of sanctions?

No. Putin may want to, but the leasees know that the current situation will have to end some time and if they step over the line too far they'll never be able to do business again.

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#2881219 8-Mar-2022 15:17

kingdragonfly: It seems that Trump's idea to use a "false flag", disguise an American F22 as a Chinese bomber, and attack Russia may have come from Fox News Sean Hannity.

Just as Aleksandr Dugin has been called Putin's Brain, so Hannity is Trump's Brain, he gets an awful lot of his bright ideas from him. If you check the Media Bias Chart, a well-regarded independent/non-partisan analysis of US media, you'll see that Hannity sits just above Infowars. So the Dear Leader gets his good advice from someone who is marginally less irrational than Alex Jones.

Another interesting data point from that chart, WSWS, the World Socialist Web Site, the official voice of the Fourth International, a revolutionary socialist movement dedicated to the overthrowing of global capitalism and the establishment of world socialism via international revolution, is a far more accurate news source than Fox News.

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#2881226 8-Mar-2022 15:26

neb:
kingdragonfly: It seems that Trump's idea to use a "false flag", disguise an American F22 as a Chinese bomber, and attack Russia may have come from Fox News Sean Hannity.
Just as Aleksandr Dugin has been called Putin's Brain, so Hannity is Trump's Brain, he gets an awful lot of his bright ideas from him. If you check the Media Bias Chart, a well-regarded independent/non-partisan analysis of US media, you'll see that Hannity sits just above Infowars. So the Dear Leader gets his good advice from someone who is marginally less irrational than Alex Jones. Another interesting data point from that chart, WSWS, the World Socialist Web Site, the official voice of the Fourth International, a revolutionary socialist movement dedicated to the overthrowing of global capitalism and the establishment of world socialism via international revolution, is a far more accurate news source than Fox News.

The illiterate homeless alcoholic cat lady who lives in the sewer is a more accurate news source than Fox News.

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