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  #3128681 16-Sep-2023 18:15
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An interesting look at possible election outcomes from Newsroom: https://www.newsroom.co.nz/election-gets-six-of-the-best

 

 




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  #3128870 18-Sep-2023 06:43
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Amazing to think we're on the precipice of two seismic changes in NZ:

 

1) The Greens securing a second anchor seat

 

2) ACT securing a second anchor seat. 

 

I mean... I'm kind of bored of hearing about Epsom all the time.




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  #3128942 18-Sep-2023 11:26
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Current labour Govt looking for dirt - 

 

https://www.firearmstalk.com/attachments/zombie-thread-day-jpg.262534/

 

 

 


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  #3128943 18-Sep-2023 11:32
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@sen8or why do you call this a zombie thread? It's very active and in no way "dead".





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  #3128953 18-Sep-2023 11:54
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I realise this is a current / very active thread, but question the digging up of a tweet from 2013 to discredit him? 

 

I am sure there are tweets / social media posts that many people said in the past that they probably shouldn't have (myself included), but this just seems to becoming more of the done thing now, sadly delving into the archives to dig up dirt on opponents and attack them with.


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  #3128954 18-Sep-2023 12:00
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sen8or:

 

I realise this is a current / very active thread, but question the digging up of a tweet from 2013 to discredit him? 

 

I am sure there are tweets / social media posts that many people said in the past that they probably shouldn't have (myself included), but this just seems to becoming more of the done thing now, sadly delving into the archives to dig up dirt on opponents and attack them with.

 

 

How you suggest voters evaluate the aptitude of a candidate without looking at their previous comments and position on issues that affect the community then?

In this case he was approached and did not comment on the issue or demonstrate a change of position.

This is not digging up old stuff but bringing their position to light.





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  #3128975 18-Sep-2023 13:41
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After reading The Spinoff's report this morning, I get the feeling this guy didn't write the rebuttal personally either, it seems more like someone in the National Party wrote it for him:

 

https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/18-09-2023/nationals-hamilton-east-candidate-opposed-fluoridation-vaccine-mandates

 

 


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  #3128995 18-Sep-2023 15:25
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gzt: Opinion poll result in Wellington Central electorate. The party vote there has a similar split.



https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2023/09/newshub-nation-reid-research-poll-labour-s-ibrahim-omer-greens-tamatha-paul-national-s-scott-sheeran-neck-and-neck-in-wellington-central.html

 

To put that into perspective here are the results from 2020. Figures rounded to nearest whole number. 

 

Grant Robertson - Labour 58%

 

Nicola Willis - National 18%

 

James Shaw - Greens 18%





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  #3129005 18-Sep-2023 15:53
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quickymart:

 

After reading The Spinoff's report this morning, I get the feeling this guy didn't write the rebuttal personally either, it seems more like someone in the National Party wrote it for him:

 

https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/18-09-2023/nationals-hamilton-east-candidate-opposed-fluoridation-vaccine-mandates

 

 

 

 

Yeah his racist "add raro" did not make me think kindly towards him.

 

And I really dont think those kinds of fruit loops change stance very easily.

 

I would not trust him.


 
 
 
 

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  #3129055 18-Sep-2023 17:40
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Imo all parties seem to have settled on the covid emergency being mostly over (for better or worse) with some controls and policies remaining in place. At this point imo all parties can afford some divergence of opinion. Taking what he says at face value he's covid vaxxed and just thinks there should have been more leeway in the emergency period controls.

I agree if he has a general anti stance on vaxxination in general that could be a problem as regarding low rates of vaccination in NZ now. I'm guessing any future health minister will set him straight on that one and in public if needed, any continuation of his fluoride comments likewise.

If he wins Hamilton East for National I don't think they'll mind.

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  #3129057 18-Sep-2023 17:42
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sir1963: Yeah his racist "add raro" did not make me think kindly towards him.

Am I missing something. What's racist about that?

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  #3129065 18-Sep-2023 18:18
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To be fair, here is a Labour candidate that is also a "deplorable": Labour candidate railed against HPV vaccine on social media (1news.co.nz)

 

 





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  #3129070 18-Sep-2023 18:40
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freitasm: To be fair, here is a Labour candidate that is also a "deplorable": Labour candidate railed against HPV vaccine on social media (1news.co.nz)

Completely nuts. Rhodes previously holding views that extreme and now in the public sphere it may be incumbent on Rhodes to explain exactly why those views were held and why her mind was changed. It's kind of understandable why a politician would do this. There are definitely some people around who have absorbed this kind of stuff and like anyone else they are potential voters. You have to ask really if the candidate showed any kind of ability for good judgement there.

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