An interesting point arises elsewhere: Has the 20% reduction for ministers kicked in yet? 

Ladies complaining about Falloon now up to five! That man is a real serial sexter. 

Rikkitic:

 

Ladies complaining about Falloon now up to five! That man is a real serial sexter. 

 

Not a flattering picture - is that a smirk? Or just entitled smugness?

elpenguino:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Ladies complaining about Falloon now up to five! That man is a real serial sexter. 

 

 

Not a flattering picture - is that a smirk? Or just entitled smugness?

 

I am surprised you aren't outraged Galloway will keep a chunk of his salary till the election :)

GV27:

 

An interesting point arises elsewhere: Has the 20% reduction for ministers kicked in yet? 

 

We must be approaching 20% less ministers by now :)

networkn:

 

I am surprised you aren't outraged Galloway will keep a chunk of his salary till the election :)

 

If he still had two women on the go he would need it :-)

networkn:

elpenguino:

Not a flattering picture - is that a smirk? Or just entitled smugness?

I am surprised you aren't outraged Galloway will keep a chunk of his salary till the election :)

 

JC said they will get it from growing the economy.....   There will be no tax increases in the first year (although every article I see doesnt say the latter phrase)

If the local economy went bananas, it will still fall short of the pre covid economy, (less or no inter travel or students)so it wont be growing anytime soon.

Blame and borrow I guess

Handle9: 

At the same time they are spending 31 billion on roading projects, a significant percentage of which aren't even costed. If a left wing party came out with policy like this Steven Joyce would be busy in his back yard inventing holes and there would be an outcry from the usual suspects on here.

Instead- nothing. I'm not sure if it's the expected bias or just general apathy about National. I'm also unsure about what is worse for them.

Maybe they don't actually plan on following through on any of their plans? That's basically how Labour wriggled out of theirs. One economist has even come back around so much to say Joyce was right. Things were definitely slowing down pre-Covid19.

Realistically though, both parties' campaign forecasts used Treasury's laughable 3% growth - forever -  assumption when costing their policies for the 2017 election and that isn't going to work anymore (not that it was ever realistic but here we are).

GV27:

Handle9: 

At the same time they are spending 31 billion on roading projects, a significant percentage of which aren't even costed. If a left wing party came out with policy like this Steven Joyce would be busy in his back yard inventing holes and there would be an outcry from the usual suspects on here.

Instead- nothing. I'm not sure if it's the expected bias or just general apathy about National. I'm also unsure about what is worse for them.

Maybe they don't actually plan on following through on any of their plans? That's basically how Labour wriggled out of theirs. One economist has even come back around so much to say Joyce was right. Things were definitely slowing down pre-Covid19.

Realistically though, both parties' campaign forecasts used Treasury's laughable 3% growth - forever -  assumption when costing their policies for the 2017 election and that isn't going to work anymore (not that it was ever realistic but here we are).

Handle9:

Labour didn't deliver the infrastructure it promised but certainly stuck to what it promised around fiscal policy.

It got debt to below 20% of GDP faster than was promised and all the policy last election was costed. National is rolling out totally uncosted fairy tales.

I find the idea that you can totally drop the ball on campaign policy, not incur the additional costs as a result and then claim you have less debt due to 'prudent management' a bit hard to swallow, frankly. 

GV27:

 

Handle9:

Labour didn't deliver the infrastructure it promised but certainly stuck to what it promised around fiscal policy.

It got debt to below 20% of GDP faster than was promised and all the policy last election was costed. National is rolling out totally uncosted fairy tales.

 

I find the idea that you can totally drop the ball on campaign policy, not incur the additional costs as a result and then claim you have less debt due to 'prudent management' a bit hard to swallow, frankly. 

 

Isn't cutting/not spending what Anti-National people here have been going on about National doing for 9 years to reach their Surplus (Which is what they did campaign on and did deliver)? Wasn't that supposedly the worst thing ever?

networkn:

 

Isn't cutting/not spending what Anti-National people here have been going on about National doing for 9 years to reach their Surplus (Which is what they did campaign on and did deliver)? Wasn't that supposedly the worst thing ever?

 

Isn't fiscal mismanagement the stick that National keeps trying to beat Labour with? So Labour turns out to be fiscally prudent and now that is the worst thing ever because they didn't spend it all on more roads?

The worst thing is National, no Labour, no NZ First. ummm dammit the whole thing is a cluster *insert rest of adjective *