I'm not looking to be able to give birth myself, that really would be unnatural as my body isn't designed to do it, but I am perfectly capable of bringing up a child if I so wished to do, nothing unnatural about that
I'm not looking to be able to give birth myself, that really would be unnatural as mu body isn't designed to do it, but I am perfectly capable or bringing up a child if I so wished to de, nothing unnatural about that
Exactly, adoption is just taking over the responsibilities of raising a child that someone clearly wasnt able to do
DeroyBoy: I don't support it because I don't think it is in the best interests of the child and for me that is the most important thing.
Thats just my opinion, I am entitled to it as you are yours.
I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions, which is how society should be. Do you have a reason why you don't think it to be in the best interest of the child though?
DeroyBoy: I don't support it because I don't think it is in the best interests of the child and for me that is the most important thing.
Thats just my opinion, I am entitled to it as you are yours.
I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions, which is how society should be. Do you have a reason why you don't think it to be in the best interest of the child though?
I'm actually on the fence a bit.
I think for some kids it could make their teenage years more difficult and that may not be fair to the child.
That is my only hesitation. I have no doubt that many gay people would make great parents, that is not in question for me.
DeroyBoy: I don't support it because I don't think it is in the best interests of the child and for me that is the most important thing.
Thats just my opinion, I am entitled to it as you are yours.
I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions, which is how society should be. Do you have a reason why you don't think it to be in the best interest of the child though?
I'm actually on the fence a bit.
I think for some kids it could make their teenage years more difficult and that may not be fair to the child.
That is my only hesitation. I have no doubt that many gay people would make great parents, that is not in question for me.
Kids will always be mocked about their parents. You'll always hear kids say something like "your mums a wh*r*" and even though she isnt they say it because they can even though they most likely havnt met the kids mum and dont know if she is a wh*r* or not. I remember when people found out one of my other mates had 2 gay dads, everyone was a little curious of course because we didnt know anyone with gay dads. But never once did he say anything about pepole giving him crap about his dads, and I never hear anyone say anything either. I'm pretty sure kids would be more curious than anything IF they found out. Emphasis on IF there
DeroyBoy: I don't support it because I don't think it is in the best interests of the child and for me that is the most important thing.
Thats just my opinion, I am entitled to it as you are yours.
I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions, which is how society should be. Do you have a reason why you don't think it to be in the best interest of the child though?
I'm actually on the fence a bit.?
I think for some kids it could make their teenage years more difficult and that may not be fair to the child.
That is my only hesitation. I have no doubt that many gay people would make great parents, that is not in question for me.?
Which is good that we generally agree then. I'm not saying that any gay couple should be allowed to adopt, just as I don't think any straight couple should be allowed to adopt either. But as it currently stands the option isn't there (and neither is it for a de facto couple) to even be considered to adopt.
I'm not saying that there wouldn't possibly be challenges, yes peoples attitudes against gay couples having children, as this thread has shown, is not straight forward and naturally accepting, but that doesn't mean a same sex couple are not fit to look after a child and that it would be harmful to a child. The same sex parents are perfectly capable of looking after and bringing up a child and doing it well, it's other people who have a problem, essentially with gay couples in general that cause the problem and so would likely mean that the child could possibly get a negative experience at school from certain members of society due to attitudes against gay parenting and not the same sex couple who are raising a child.
tardtasticx: Kids will always be mocked about their parents. You'll always hear kids say something like "your mums a wh*r*" and even though she isnt they say it because they can even though they most likely havnt met the kids mum and dont know if she is a wh*r* or not. I remember when people found out one of my other mates had 2 gay dads, everyone was a little curious of course because we didnt know anyone with gay dads. But never once did he say anything about pepole giving him crap about his dads, and I never hear anyone say anything either. I'm pretty sure kids would be more curious than anything IF they found out. Emphasis on IF there
Our nieces and nephews seem happy with their uncles, not once have they seemed ashamed or wanted to hide the fact that were a couple so I would be very surprised if they had ever received any bullying about it.
DeroyBoy: I don't support it because I don't think it is in the best interests of the child and for me that is the most important thing.
Thats just my opinion, I am entitled to it as you are yours.
I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions, which is how society should be. Do you have a reason why you don't think it to be in the best interest of the child though?
I'm actually on the fence a bit.?
I think for some kids it could make their teenage years more difficult and that may not be fair to the child.
That is my only hesitation. I have no doubt that many gay people would make great parents, that is not in question for me.?
Which is good that we generally agree then. I'm not saying that any gay couple should be allowed to adopt, just as I don't think any straight couple should be allowed to adopt either. But as it currently stands the option isn't there (and neither is it for a de facto couple) to even be considered to adopt.
I'm not saying that there wouldn't possibly be challenges, yes peoples attitudes against gay couples having children, as this thread has shown, is not straight forward and naturally accepting, but that doesn't mean a same sex couple are not fit to look after a child and that it would be harmful to a child. The same sex parents are perfectly capable of looking after and bringing up a child and doing it well, it's other people who have a problem, essentially with gay couples in general that cause the problem and so would likely mean that the child could possibly get a negative experience at school from certain members of society due to attitudes against gay parenting and not the same sex couple who are raising a child.
Yeah I guess my hesitation comes from weather we should intentionally put children in a situation where they are more likely to become a victim (of narrow minded people). As I said I am not suggesting gay people are in any way unable to take care of the basic needs of children. I think over time this will become a non issue, we are just not quite there yet.
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Surely the best possible environment for a child is with a family that consists of 2 parents, a mother and a father. This has been proven - i.e. kids that do not have a father figure in their life \ kids that dont have a mother figure in thier life will have a harder time developing. Therefore if the state is choosing "the best possible" outcome for a child it stands to reason that it should be with a mother and father. This is why we dont have single parent adoptions.
DeroyBoy: Yeah I guess my hesitation comes from weather we should intentionally put children in a situation where they are more likely to become a victim (of narrow minded people). As I said I am not suggesting gay people are in any way unable to take care of the basic needs of children. I think over time this will become a non issue, we are just not quite there yet.?
That's why I say I don't actually believe a child would be any more a victim than any other child is just because they had same sex parents. There were suggestions (I am not saying by you because you have not done that) that having same sex parents was unnatural and wrong, the only reasoning I got for this was that it takes a man and woman to have sex and not a man/man or woman/woman, but this doesn't mean that same sex parents would be bad for the childs upbringing (which has also been suggested). What it seems you are saying is that because of the opinions of certain members of society, children of same sex parents might be teased/bullied because of that difference and this is a reason to deny two good parents to opportunity to give a child a stable, loving home, in reality children get teased and bullied about all sorts of things and having two dads or two mums won't necessarily be the reason they are. The good thing is though that these children grow up with it being normal to have two parents of the same sex, their friends will grow up knowing the same, they will have done this from a very young age so what's to bully them about?
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