Green's MP accused of Shoplifting

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#311387 11-Jan-2024 10:03

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz-ghahraman-shoplifting-accusation-political-commentator-brigitte-morten-says-green-mps-reputation-tarnished/ILNT3HAT2VD2TIN6LZIVU42CZM/

A) Innocent until proven guilty.

B) However, I'm a little surprised that she's "staying tight lipped", as a lot of people will take her silence to mean "guilty", as otherwise one would be vocal about their being innocent??

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#3180395 11-Jan-2024 10:15

Why not wait until the matter is dealt with before passing judgement?

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#3180435 11-Jan-2024 12:13

Rikkitic:

Why not wait until the matter is dealt with before passing judgement?

Generally people are not that pragmatic when it comes to political scandals.

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#3180530 11-Jan-2024 12:28

GV27:

Rikkitic:

Why not wait until the matter is dealt with before passing judgement?

Generally people are not that pragmatic when it comes to political scandals.

Its only OK to pass judgment straight away if the accused sits on the right. 🤣

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#3180532 11-Jan-2024 12:32

Wombat1:

Its only OK to pass judgment straight away if the accused sits on the right. 🤣

What a silly thing to say!

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#3180533 11-Jan-2024 12:36

GV27:

Generally people are not that pragmatic when it comes to political scandals.

Maybe they should at least wait until it becomes a scandal. At the moment it is little more than a suspicion. "Police can confirm a report was received about an incident at a Ponsonby retailer on 23 December 2023," the spokesperson said. "Initial enquiries are still being made into this report and Police are not able to comment further at this stage".

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#3180549 11-Jan-2024 13:25

Rikkitic:

Maybe they should at least wait until it becomes a scandal.

Sorry but a police complaint about theft about a justice spokesperson in a political party is a scandal.

I'd be more charitable if we had at least had a token denial or claim of a misunderstanding.

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#3180564 11-Jan-2024 13:38

GV27:

Sorry but a police complaint about theft about a justice spokesperson in a political party is a scandal.

I'd be more charitable if we had at least had a token denial or claim of a misunderstanding.

Has a formal police complaint been laid? I thought they were still just conducting an investigation. If charges have been filed then I agree.

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#3180565 11-Jan-2024 13:39

Rikkitic:

Has a formal police complaint been laid? I thought they were still just conducting an investigation. If charges have been filed then I agree.

Maybe I'm falling down on the 'report' thing.

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#3180573 11-Jan-2024 13:55

GV27:

Rikkitic:

Has a formal police complaint been laid? I thought they were still just conducting an investigation. If charges have been filed then I agree.

Maybe I'm falling down on the 'report' thing.

This was in the Herald at 10:30 this morning. I am basing my comments on that. I don't know if there is anything more recent:

“Initial inquiries are still being made into this report and police are not able to comment further at this stage” a police statement said.

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#3180682 11-Jan-2024 18:35

GV27:

Rikkitic:

Why not wait until the matter is dealt with before passing judgement?

Generally people are not that pragmatic when it comes to political scandals.

Or anything at all involving politics. Both the Ardern and Luxon threads are full of hot takes without waiting to see what does and doesn't get done.

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#3181263 12-Jan-2024 19:01

Herald article has accusation of $15K of stuff and more than one occasion of it happening.

Pretty moronic way to flush $200k career down the toilet.

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#3181272 12-Jan-2024 19:34

Daynger:

Herald article has accusation of $15K of stuff and more than one occasion of it happening.

Pretty moronic way to flush $200k career down the toilet.

List MPs don't get paid $200k

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#3181297 12-Jan-2024 21:05

Who cares what she earns? Totally irrelevant to this discussion.

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#3181302 12-Jan-2024 21:18

Handle9:

List MPs don't get paid $200k

$164K base + perks (super, accomodation, travel) would be gettting close. And also yet still markedly less than what she could be earning as a solicitor in the commercial world.

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