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gcorgnet

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#247729 19-Feb-2019 13:51

Hi,

I just received a phone call (from 006498892145) with some sort of robotic recorded message telling me the IRD was calling due to a law suit against me.

I logged in on their website and didn't seen anything in particular so I'm gonna assume it's not the case...

Anyone had that phone call?

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#2183618 19-Feb-2019 13:52

According to this website, I am not the only one: https://thisphone.co.nz/098892145

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#2183621 19-Feb-2019 13:56

Last one I had was all in an Asian language (assume Chinese?) and IRD was clearly said in English.

There was a thread on it here somewhere a while back...quite a common one.

Must've changed things up a bit. Adding a lawsuit - that's a good one.

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#2183667 19-Feb-2019 14:19

31-March is the start of tax / EOFY

As you can imagine, these and the BS refund emails spark up this time each year.

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#2183675 19-Feb-2019 14:32

Wish telcos would setup a system to stop bot and auto callers. Very simple systems exist as they do it in the UK.

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#2183683 19-Feb-2019 14:47

How would they tell if it was a bot caller tho ? The phone numbers are valid, so cant just block a range etc.

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#2183878 19-Feb-2019 19:14

Next they would ask you to pay a fine using iTunes cards...

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#2183907 19-Feb-2019 19:45

xpd:

How would they tell if it was a bot caller tho ? The phone numbers are valid, so cant just block a range etc.

Truecaller manage to ID many scams.

They could at least do blocking on the network side rather than rely on apps which dont always work as expected like when on another call or something.

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#2185926 23-Feb-2019 16:42

xpd:
How would they tell if it was a bot caller tho ? The phone numbers are valid, so cant just block a range etc.

The caller ID in this example (0064...) is invalid as that's a domestic code being rendered in the international style.

Yet another giveaway that the Caller ID is being forged by someone who hasn't gotten it 'quite right'.

The problem is that there's no way to 'prove' the Caller ID presented to the recipient is invalid. Only the telco's can do anything about the call addressing and mainly they'll only know that it's coming through an upstream supplier who also deliver a large number of legit calls. Basically the network was set up on the assumption that telco's would control everything and not really envisaged to become a fraudsters heaven. :(

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/11/15/robocalls-verification-system-ftc-fcc-telecommunications-caller-id-shaken-stir/1682591002/ may be of interest

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#2190625 4-Mar-2019 11:35

Be advised, if you do decide to phone the IRD (for whatever reason), your voiceprint will be taken and data-banked.

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#2190657 4-Mar-2019 12:53

doctrox:

Be advised, if you do decide to phone the IRD (for whatever reason), your voiceprint will be taken and data-banked.

thats fine anyone who rings my number is automatically recorded and stored.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2190666 4-Mar-2019 13:15

doctrox:

Be advised, if you do decide to phone the IRD (for whatever reason), your voiceprint will be taken and data-banked.

Many, many organisations record your call. I'm not sure rattling (in a paranoid fashion) about voiceprints is useful.

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#2190676 4-Mar-2019 13:35

BlakJak:

doctrox:

Be advised, if you do decide to phone the IRD (for whatever reason), your voiceprint will be taken and data-banked.

Many, many organisations record your call. I'm not sure rattling (in a paranoid fashion) about voiceprints is useful.

Going by doctrox' previous rant (https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=184&TopicId=243884) , he/she doesn't want any government organisation to know anything about him/her (or anyone else really) at all.

Did Eric Clapton really think she looked wonderful...or was it after the 15th outfit she tried on and he just wanted to get to the party and get a drink?

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#2190682 4-Mar-2019 13:46

I remember reading that this happened to a guy in Taupo ...

https://cdn2.neighbourly.co.nz/images/publication-pdfs/576787ee40f266.02917857.pdf?170410

A Taupo man spent $8000 on
iTunes vouchers for crooks who
conned him into thinking he was
paying off a tax debt.
IRD said this week hundreds of
people had received calls from
scammers claiming to be from the
tax collector threatening people
over tax evasion and police are
now police are warning about
aggressive scams after the case
involving the Taupo man came to
light.
It started when he received a
message on his landline from
someone claiming to be from the
Inland Revenue Department.
He was told there was a warrant out for his arrest due to tax
evasions and unpaid tax.

This type of crime sickens me, but I can't fathom how people fall for it.

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#2190685 4-Mar-2019 13:53

floydbloke:

Going by doctrox' previous rant (https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=184&TopicId=243884) , he/she doesn't want any government organisation to know anything about him/her (or anyone else really) at all.

Hes got a slight problem.

Hes on the internet.

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#2190686 4-Mar-2019 13:54

surfisup1000:

This type of crime sickens me, but I can't fathom how people fall for it.

I don't get it either really. But if you can send me $999 then I will get it.

Thankfully some stores are wising up to elder folks buying up large amounts of iTunes cards and querying what theyre for, and have saved a few people from being ripped off.

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