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seoras

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#318225 28-Dec-2024 14:33
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I've searched these forums and found this topic has come up over the years but no one really had a great answer to it.

 

I have an NZ business that makes it's revenue almost entirely from Google and Apple Apps (App store, Play, Google Ads).

 

It's been a low earner since I incorporated a few years ago but at the start of this year it finally passed the GST revenue threshold and I've had to register it for GST.

 

The thing that's troubling me is that each time I file GST I get a nice lump sum back. I'm not paying GST, I'm getting paid back GST because I'm collecting none. I have no NZ customers.

 

That might be correct, and I've nothing to worry about, but I'd like confirmation that I'm not wrong in how I'm filing.

 

I believe the income the business gets is zero-rated as it arrives in the bank as international wire transfers directly from the likes of Apple Inc, Cupertino and not Apple NZ as one accountant I spoke to tried to convince me (he thought I should be docking GST from that).

 

There's the rub. The two accountants I've spoken to are more used to dealing with "regular" NZ businesses who have NZ customers and in that situation GST is much more obvious (both are family members, one specialises in business tax).

 

I've heard that calling up the IRD is a waste of time as they just tell you to find an accountant. There must be some support for specialised businesses here in NZ, no?

 

Are there any App publishers like me among you who know the ropes on this or can recommend an accountant who has experience with digital services (SAS) exported?

 

 


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seoras

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  #3339062 4-Feb-2025 12:21
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I've now hired an accounting firm to advise and do the App company business tax.

 

They are comfortable with what I'm doing on the GST and have checked with the IRD.

 

I came across something interesting recently while I was looking for alternatives for PayPal on my website.

 

Paddle.com and Fastspring are two alternatives I was looking at. Paddle describes itself as a “Merchant of record”, which I’d never heard off before.

 

 

https://www.paddle.com/blog/what-is-merchant-of-record

 

 

That would also be a fair description of Apple's App Store and Google Play as they both handle the sales tax collection and filing.

 

Were as PayPal is just a "Payment Service Provider", according to Paddle.

 

It's a bit bizarre filing GST each month and getting money back every time but that seems to be just the nature of the business I am in!

 

Hope this followup proves to be of some use/comfort for anyone searching for an answer to this in future.


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