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WyleECoyoteNZ
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  #2546638 20-Aug-2020 22:06
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A question around the high end Sony headphones (WH-1000XM3's)

 

I've got and enjoyed for the last 5+ years a pair of Sony MDR10RBT, usually playing off either my Sony NWZ A15 player or music off my phone (Huawei P9). Lately, the MDR10's have started to show there age, the foam of the ear cups is showing, the frame\arm cracked (my doing) and is held together with gaffer tape.

 

Initially, a couple of days ago, I started off looking at a pair of Sennheiser headphones (Sennheiser HD 4.5 BTNC), I've had wired Sennheiser's before and tried the 4.5 HD's, but found them a bit tight, I then looked at the Sony WH-CH700N's, or what I thought were. Both these were advertised at the Noel Leeming Featherston street Wellington as $229 (Sennheiser) or $227 (Sony).

 

Going back to the same store today with Sony player and 3.5mm cable, I couldn't test listen to the Sennheiser as that a different jack point, but were able to listen to what I thought were the Sony 700's, but were actually the newer Sony WH-CH710's ($298), as the 700's had sold out, but the store had the 710's there for trying on, with the 700's price being shown. Hmm.

 

After trying the 710's the saleperson then showed me the WH-1000XM3's, at a sale price of $420.

 

Now, most of the music I'm listening too is in mp3 format at mostly 192kbps, some higher, some lower. I do occasionally listen to Spotify, but aren't on the premium plan, just the free one.

 

The Sony player (NWZ A15) I think I read correctly is capable of AptX, which the high end Sony WH-1000XM3's support where as the 710's don't

 

With the music I have am I going to notice any difference between the XM3's and 710's??

 

I'm not a audiophile, the headphones are mainly used on the daily commute, sometimes in the office when it gets noisy, but both the XM3's and 710's are noise cancelling.

 

I'm aware the XM3's have been supersede by the XM4's, but they are too pricey. Are the XM3's really worth the extra over the 710's?

 

Thanks in advance.




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  #2546664 21-Aug-2020 00:22
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Re: aptX...

 

Is your phone an Android or iPhone?


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  #2546831 21-Aug-2020 09:21
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Dunnersfella:

Re: aptX...


Is your phone an Android or iPhone?



Android. Huawei P9, it's now a few years old



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  #2546993 21-Aug-2020 13:02
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You should be able to see the supported bluetooth codex under the developer options of the phone.


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  #2546995 21-Aug-2020 13:16
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networkn:

 

Yep, same here, I won't be "upgrading" as the "upgrades" aren't really something I'd opt for under normal circumstances anyways. They just don't concern me. Improved noise cancelling? They are pretty good now, so not something I'd pay to improve.

 

I can think of a reasonable number of other ways to spend $400-500.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh come on - improved noise cancelling for all those flights we are going to be taking to all these "bubbles" via "air bridges"?! Surely a necessity..!😂






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  #2547002 21-Aug-2020 13:36
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WyleECoyoteNZ:

A question around the high end Sony headphones (WH-1000XM3's)


I've got and enjoyed for the last 5+ years a pair of Sony MDR10RBT, usually playing off either my Sony NWZ A15 player or music off my phone (Huawei P9). Lately, the MDR10's have started to show there age, the foam of the ear cups is showing, the frame\arm cracked (my doing) and is held together with gaffer tape.


Initially, a couple of days ago, I started off looking at a pair of Sennheiser headphones (Sennheiser HD 4.5 BTNC), I've had wired Sennheiser's before and tried the 4.5 HD's, but found them a bit tight, I then looked at the Sony WH-CH700N's, or what I thought were. Both these were advertised at the Noel Leeming Featherston street Wellington as $229 (Sennheiser) or $227 (Sony).


Going back to the same store today with Sony player and 3.5mm cable, I couldn't test listen to the Sennheiser as that a different jack point, but were able to listen to what I thought were the Sony 700's, but were actually the newer Sony WH-CH710's ($298), as the 700's had sold out, but the store had the 710's there for trying on, with the 700's price being shown. Hmm.


After trying the 710's the saleperson then showed me the WH-1000XM3's, at a sale price of $420.


Now, most of the music I'm listening too is in mp3 format at mostly 192kbps, some higher, some lower. I do occasionally listen to Spotify, but aren't on the premium plan, just the free one.


The Sony player (NWZ A15) I think I read correctly is capable of AptX, which the high end Sony WH-1000XM3's support where as the 710's don't


With the music I have am I going to notice any difference between the XM3's and 710's??


I'm not a audiophile, the headphones are mainly used on the daily commute, sometimes in the office when it gets noisy, but both the XM3's and 710's are noise cancelling.


I'm aware the XM3's have been supersede by the XM4's, but they are too pricey. Are the XM3's really worth the extra over the 710's?


Thanks in advance.



Short answer is yes there will be a significant difference. But whether you like it or not I can't say. Whether it's worth it that's really not my call! The xm3 is very bass heavy (though I wish it could be bassier).

 
 
 

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  #2547054 21-Aug-2020 14:30
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WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

I'm aware the XM3's have been supersede by the XM4's, but they are too pricey. Are the XM3's really worth the extra over the 710's?

 

 

FWIW I have tested the WH-CH700Ns (which I purchased for the younger bro in law) and got myself the XM3s.

 

Night and day difference, in both sound, ANC and also comfort-ability.

 

I have not tried the 710s but to me the XM3s are worth the premium over the 700s. 





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  #2547355 21-Aug-2020 22:02
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Thanks to everyone for there feedback. I'm unsure what I'll decide, but let the group know when I do


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  #2547378 21-Aug-2020 23:22
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WyleECoyoteNZ

 

 

 

I've gone up from the XM1 all the way to recently getting XM3's, both first two generations were pre-order saving $100 total $600... Then the sales always happen with Sony for 20-25% off saving alot more. Usually month after release, just wait awhile they will drop in price.. . Last year XM3's dropped to $320 lowest their headphones gone to ever. This year because covid sitting around $400 cheapest was $380.

 

 

 

I prefer my XM2's they stay on my head compared to XM3 being lighter, also XM2 I feel build quality better especially case. The XM4 just more premium finish with different headband shape no biggie also the dac has been tweaked balance the bass out better. XM4 meant to be major improvement then XM3's.. . One glitch of XM4's is when you talk audio automatically goes quiet then after takes 30'sec go back to normal which is long pause or double tap side music plays normally.. . Also they have two mic's compared to previous generations had 1 fix calls sounded distant to the caller.. .

 

 

 

I ended up comparing the XM2 and XM3 in Tidal hifi once I setup the headphone app for 360 Reality, listening to the Masters and Dolby Atmos tracks felt like being in a mini sound stage. The clarity of voices and instruments felt more alive. Preferred XM2 as base balanced.

 

Overall compared to Bose Sony has passed them with their headphones, just more premium all round, for 700's reviews were about plastic finish also dearer then their QC's. Most were saying QC's all round much better deal. I thought they were trying to compete against B&O B&W cans when first released but fell majorly short.

 

Even other brands are catching up with their own Noise cancelling cans, Sennheiser Momentum Wireless 3, Microsoft, etc.

 

 

 

Hope that helps.. .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2547387 22-Aug-2020 00:02
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WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

Thanks to everyone for there feedback. I'm unsure what I'll decide, but let the group know when I do

 

 

if you like bass - get the xm3


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  #2547901 22-Aug-2020 23:02
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You can preorder the xm4 for $399+delivery from Containerdoor which seems to be the best price around.


 
 
 

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  #2547903 22-Aug-2020 23:08
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daunjan:

 

... One glitch of XM4's is when you talk audio automatically goes quiet then after takes 30'sec go back to normal which is long pause or double tap side music plays normally..

 

 

By the looks of this review, that is a feature that can be disabled (as the reviewer promptly did).


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  #2547991 23-Aug-2020 10:31
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It looks like the first one hundred xm4 units have been allocated already on Containerdoor, but they've opened a second batch here.


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  #2547993 23-Aug-2020 10:43
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tieke:

 

It looks like the first one hundred xm4 units have been allocated already on Containerdoor, but they've opened a second batch here.

 

 

I was gutted to have missed out on the first round, so am delighted to see there's a second one open now (I've just pre-ordered).

 

Thanks!


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  #2548118 23-Aug-2020 13:09
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Benjip:

 

tieke:

 

It looks like the first one hundred xm4 units have been allocated already on Containerdoor, but they've opened a second batch here.

 

 

I was gutted to have missed out on the first round, so am delighted to see there's a second one open now (I've just pre-ordered).

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

At that price I am listing my XM3 (unless the Wife wants it)!!





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