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#2581871 9-Oct-2020 12:27

A layman question pardon

Looking at the Back Coax and the splitter inside - would this be the legacy Vodafone broadband cables from the street in Wgtn or Christchurch?
The original setup had modems at the t-Box and the router

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#2581882 9-Oct-2020 12:57

D1023319:

A layman question pardon

Looking at the Back Coax and the splitter inside - would this be the legacy Vodafone broadband cables from the street in Wgtn or Christchurch?
The original setup had modems at the t-Box and the router

Cheers

I think you are referring to the incoming satellite coax and distribution splitter.

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#2591642 25-Oct-2020 12:59

Hi Alistair, what was the outcome on this one, just curious.

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#2591673 25-Oct-2020 15:16

cyril7: Hi Alistair, what was the outcome on this one, just curious.

Cyril

Hi Cyril.

The black coiled cables still need to be dealt with. The adsl/fibre wiring has been done properly, and satellite setup was fine, I just had to scroll through a few LNB frequencies till I got the right one.

Thanks, Al.

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#2591688 25-Oct-2020 17:03

Great and is there fibre due and was copper services available I seem to recall some discussion re no copper as everyone was on wireless.

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#2591689 25-Oct-2020 17:04

cyril7: Great and is there fibre due and was copper services available I seem to recall some discussion re no copper as everyone was on wireless.

Cyril

Asked Chorus who has no plans for fibre in that rural area. VDSL only. Almost makes me want to buy elsewhere :-(

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#2591721 25-Oct-2020 18:25

you may have vectored VDSL if there is no fibre plans which will give you potentially a sync rate of 100/50 if you are close enough to the cabinet/exchange

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#2591766 25-Oct-2020 18:42

Yep good vdsl is a good 2nd best to fibre, being based around ethernet, as opposed to atm for adsl means it's more lan like that adsl, assuming you have reasonable sync rate and solid wiring.

Cyril

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#2591933 25-Oct-2020 21:55

nztim:

ageorge:

most likely ends up in the existing cupboard wall box, with Ethernet distribution points and 2 x power sockets. Also the satellite feed seems to come in there to a coax distribution.

Im doubtful due to length, sparkies could pull either end to bring OPTICAT through. Thats why it should be done properly before takeover.

There is two though, why? just doesn't make sense

There should be two. One for dedicated xDSL jack the other for POTS. Using one Cat 5/6 cable for both is contrary to TCF premises wiring guidelines.

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#2591956 26-Oct-2020 07:43

Modern wiring for Kiwi homes seems pretty well sorted. However, with about 10% (my guess) of new homes having satellite dish, and many blind scan setup not scanning the LNB frequencies, it should be part of the procedure to put a sticker on the coax output end in distro box, saying the LNB frequency.

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#2591962 26-Oct-2020 09:10

Hi TCF is a guide not a law, to support a legacy copper solution using two pairs of an OptiCat5 for voice and dsl is plainly a totally acceptable solution.

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#2591974 26-Oct-2020 10:49

cyril7: Hi TCF is a guide not a law, to support a legacy copper solution using two pairs of an OptiCat5 for voice and dsl is plainly a totally acceptable solution.

Cyril

And Telecom NZ never ran two cables back in the day, always used 2 pairs in a cable from
the ETP

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#2591976 26-Oct-2020 10:55

cyril7: Hi TCF is a guide not a law, to support a legacy copper solution using two pairs of an OptiCat5 for voice and dsl is plainly a totally acceptable solution.

Cyril

If this is in reply to me - do you work for VisionStream? ;)

I'm well aware TFC guidelines are not law. And what is or is not law makes no difference to what best practices are.

The installer clearly wired the place up for copper only, not Fibre.

Two cables are recommended primarily to avoid the router and phone having to share a single jackpoint, secondly to allow xDSL speeds of over 100Mbps & also to reduce crosstalk.

One runs from the splitter inside ETP to a dedicated jackpoint for the router which can be anywhere & second cable runs to jackpoint for the phone which can be anywhere.

Using one cable from the ETP for both VDSL & voice services is NOT acceptable.

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#2591978 26-Oct-2020 11:04

Hi well I don't agree, yes that made sense if you were siting the ont directly behind the ont and not in a hub, but not if OptiCat5 was installed.

The intent of the TCF was as above, and scripted before the advent of OptiCat5.

I can just see chorus turning up and seeing just one run of cat5 be it only copper or OptiCat5 and going nah no way there should be 8 pairs here for me to select 2, I'm refusing to install...... Yeah right.

Two cable runs may have made sense if there was no hub, but here there is.

And no I don't work for visionstream

Cyril

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