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#229949 1-Jul-2009 14:35

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/telecom-offer-59-a-month-all-you-can-eat-data-plan-with-throttling-104476

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#229951 1-Jul-2009 14:39

"Big Time customers will be given a discreet, separate slice of bandwidth. If 10 use it, they’ll each get 10% of the bandwidth. If 100 are using it during a peak time, 1% - which in practical terms would mean slower or “throttled” performance."

Not sure if this is a quote from Ralph Brayham (Director of Home services for Telecom Retail) or Chris Keall's explanation of shaping of the new plans.

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#229954 1-Jul-2009 14:46

JimmyLizar: "Big Time customers will be given a discreet, separate slice of bandwidth. If 10 use it, they’ll each get 10% of the bandwidth. If 100 are using it during a peak time, 1% - which in practical terms would mean slower or “throttled” performance."

Not sure if this is a quote from Ralph Brayham (Director of Home services for Telecom Retail) or Chris Keall's explanation of shaping of the new plans.

It dosnt make a lot of sense, there will be on the very conservative side, 5000 people on the plan. so that article tells me, you would be receiving less that 0.2% of the available bandwidth each, so in other words slower than a 14.4k baud modem?
Edit: 100:1 would be the worst im guessing, depends on the chunk of bandwidth they allocate that 100 people

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#229959 1-Jul-2009 14:56

Mauricio: if your getting a list together to ask telecom about the subtleties of the plan can you ask them about online gaming, will it be shaped at all?

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#229970 1-Jul-2009 15:41

garvani:
JimmyLizar: "Big Time customers will be given a discreet, separate slice of bandwidth. If 10 use it, they’ll each get 10% of the bandwidth. If 100 are using it during a peak time, 1% - which in practical terms would mean slower or “throttled” performance."

Not sure if this is a quote from Ralph Brayham (Director of Home services for Telecom Retail) or Chris Keall's explanation of shaping of the new plans.

It dosnt make a lot of sense, there will be on the very conservative side, 5000 people on the plan. so that article tells me, you would be receiving less that 0.2% of the available bandwidth each, so in other words slower than a 14.4k baud modem?
Edit: 100:1 would be the worst im guessing, depends on the chunk of bandwidth they allocate that 100 people

I dont think anywhere they have quoted what the actual bandwidth allocated to the whole pool will be.

Eg it might be 1 Gigabit/s aka 1,000,000kb/s which with 5000 customers currently using it works out at 200kb/s each, which isnt too bad, and it assumes everyone is maxing this out.

garvani: Mauricio: if your getting a list together to ask telecom about the subtleties of the plan can you ask them about online gaming, will it be shaped at all?

This would be very ideal, packet inspection to detect traffic types, and minor bandwidth but latency sensitive applications such as gaming should take number one priority, along with VOIP etc.

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#230025 1-Jul-2009 18:16

This could potentially be an epic win. If they can provide good latency for gaming during peak hours in combination with no data cap for downloading "linux isos" it would kick butt.

My other thought is will be telecom customers only, or if this will be resold via other ISP's as well. Its mighty tempting but I'd really hate to sell my soul to Telecom again.

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#230028 1-Jul-2009 18:35

That "100:1 contention" comment is irrelevant.

I have also forwarded some new questions, so let's see how it goes.

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#230043 1-Jul-2009 18:58

Some official information I got just now from Telecom:

"The comment regarding the ratio was more of a 'for example' response, the traffic management/shaping is much more complex than simply an allocation of bandwidth per customer.

As far as specifying what is/isn't shaped, I can confirm all traffic has the potential to be subject to traffic management with a particular focus on filesharing traffic. At this stage though, no there is no intention to shape gaming traffic given that most online games have low bandwidth requirements."

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#230050 1-Jul-2009 19:25

thanks freitasm for your help with details on it :)

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#230051 1-Jul-2009 19:27

You are welcome :)

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#230054 1-Jul-2009 19:44

So whos going to be the guinea pigs and sign up? although you wouldnt know the true performance of the plan until there was a sufficent number of people on it

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#230056 1-Jul-2009 19:45

A few years ago I was on Adventure 10 gig plan and went to Go Large. Biggest freakin mistake I ever made. I went from getting excellent speeds on *all* types of traffic to terrible speeds nearly all the time.

Big Thing will probably work just fine for the people who don't really need a big data cap anyway. They check their emails do a bit of web browsing. For people who like to use a bit of data with file sharing and usenet, Big Thing could be a big disappointment.

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#230057 1-Jul-2009 19:49

garvani: So whos going to be the guinea pigs and sign up? although you wouldnt know the true performance of the plan until there was a sufficent number of people on it

I fully intend to sign up. I'm already on total home and paying the $10 for the 10gb top up to 20gb.

So no extra money. If i find performance crap, I'll drop back to the totalhome + 10gb.

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#230058 1-Jul-2009 19:53

davidcole:
I fully intend to sign up. I'm already on total home and paying the $10 for the 10gb top up to 20gb.

So no extra money. If i find performance crap, I'll drop back to the totalhome + 10gb.

Me too. Exactly the same situation. What's to lose?

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#230090 1-Jul-2009 22:16

garvani: oh no, good bye go large, youve served me well over the last few years :(.. Bigtime looks like a worthy successor though! :).. go large was limited to 3.5mbit down by the way

Incorrect - Go large was not limited to 3.5mbit down, either by profile, or by the nominal 128kbit up. It is perfectly possible to get just over 9mbit out of Go Large with the 128kbit upstream.

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