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  #138637 17-Jun-2008 09:46
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I wonder if 28 July is also kick-off date for the new 3g network that was starting in April?




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  #138639 17-Jun-2008 09:55

peejayw: I wonder if 28 July is also kick-off date for the new 3g network that was starting in April?


No. But I do have news on that front in the near future as well..

good news.

gleeful news.

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  #138641 17-Jun-2008 10:01
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Oh well, will continue to watch display for arrival of the magic "3G"  Frown




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  #138643 17-Jun-2008 10:02
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peejayw: I wonder if 28 July is also kick-off date for the new 3g network that was starting in April?


The network is live but has been very much a soft launch and gradual rollout rather than a big announcement.


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  #138645 17-Jun-2008 10:09
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Yes am awae of that but it was actually switched on here for a week back in April and then was shut down so I can only assume there was some problem, just hope it will appear again else my 6121 was a bad choice.




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  #138648 17-Jun-2008 10:35
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tonyhughes:
"Casual Daily Rate does not apply to VoIP ...."

This prepay data pricing is brilliant. Extremely competitive, and very attractive.

I must say however, that stipulating no VoIP is quite a concern. Why is Vodafone trying to control what I do with the connection I pay for?

Its not like VoIP places a strain on resources - whether I use 1MB of email or 1MB of VoIP call, its still revenue. If you let me use VoIP, I will stay connected all the time, recieve a few calls a week, generally only make calls from the office or home where I am in WiFi coverage anyway, and your data revenue increases, while voice calling for me will remain largely unaffected.

Is the no VoIP a 'rule' only, or is it enforced from a technical standpoint (I am sure some enterprising GZer will find out soon anyway).


That is very good point that's not been addressed.

 
 
 
 

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  #138683 17-Jun-2008 12:42
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hellonearthisman: That is very good point that's not been addressed.


Perhaps "intentionally unanswered" might be a better way of putting this, Paul?

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  #138691 17-Jun-2008 13:49

Yeah... hiding. Right. Sorry, but I have this day job thing that occasionally gets in the way of my blogging... Laughing

There's no mystery here - we say in our terms and conditions that we don't support VoIP because we don't. We can't guarantee throughput, we can't guarantee quality of service. So it's not a supported application but at the same time we don't block it. If you want to buy a phone, use it for data and then use it to (gasp) make phone calls, you can!

But we don't support it.

Hope that helps.

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  #138693 17-Jun-2008 14:02
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PaulBrislen: Yeah... hiding. Right. Sorry, but I have this day job thing that occasionally gets in the way of my blogging... Laughing

There's no mystery here - we say in our terms and conditions that we don't support VoIP because we don't. We can't guarantee throughput, we can't guarantee quality of service. So it's not a supported application but at the same time we don't block it. If you want to buy a phone, use it for data and then use it to (gasp) make phone calls, you can!

Hi Paul, thanks for that, sounds like good news, but I (retentive as I am) would really like a clarification, as the two statements are quite dissimilar:

"Casual Daily Rate does not apply to VoIP ...." (Website)

and

"use it for data and then use it to (gasp) make phone calls, you can! But we don't support it."
(P.B.)

So can we safely assume from your post above that on Prepay, we can use VoIP, and that the data use will be covered under the $1 plan as if it was any other normal traffic? The proviso being that if the call quality is awful (or latency or other issues), there is no scope for help/support.

If that is indeed the case, then you have a very very compelling offer for a lot of people.








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  #138694 17-Jun-2008 14:03
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So it's not a supported application but at the same time we don't block it.... you can .... But we don't support it.


Thanks for clarifing Paul, clearly the wording on the website contradicts this atm though!

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  #138696 17-Jun-2008 14:04

That's the case, Tony. We neither care nor block...

a bit is a bit is a bit.

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  #138699 17-Jun-2008 14:05

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So it's not a supported application but at the same time we don't block it.... you can .... But we don't support it.


Thanks for clarifing Paul, clearly the wording on the website contradicts this atm though!


I've hunted for that sentence but can't find it. Where are you guys looking?

Can someone send me the URL? I can feed it back into the system that way.

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  #138708 17-Jun-2008 14:13
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Filterer: The bottom of http://www.vodafone.co.nz/mobile-data/mobile-web.jsp

* Subject to standard data restrictions. Casual Daily Rate does not apply to VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) or to Telemetry devices, which provide automatic measurement and transmission of data over the Vodafone data network.

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  #138710 17-Jun-2008 14:20
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tonyhughes:

If that is indeed the case, then you have a very very compelling offer for a lot of people.



How far is 10MB going to get you on a VOIP call though, can't imagine it'd be much worth going to the trouble for.




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