okiie doke

booting straight from bios didnt boot win ssd,

i think you where bang on about uefi/efi  ,after a few things tried grub boot stopped working,but the choose screen sort of took over i couldnt even go f8 bios options,so in went the live usb followed plenty of tips fromsu in liveusb but all failed, so i cut my losses and took all drives off air,just the win 10 one in and reformated/installed/ runs great,so i did linux ssd same way on its own which was good.

Then i  connectet my w10 and other hdds andd wallah grub has windows automaticly.....so its all up and pureing away.

so many thanx