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  #3029917 31-Jan-2023 12:11
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neb: I take the brute force approach, keep throwing stuff at the ground until some of it refuses to die, then plant more of that stuff.

 

Yup, given that weeds are hardy plants that aren't wanted, it just takes a recategorisation of them into "wanted" and gardening is easy.

 

"Yeah, that's my Deadly Nightshade patch. You never know when you might want some".

 

 


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  #3029960 31-Jan-2023 14:40
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alasta:

If they're not responding to polite requests for enforcement action then it's time to send them a LGOIMA request for some statistics - e.g. how many infringements have you issued each month in a given area over a given period of time. If the statistics are as damning as I suspect they'll be then take them to the media or one of your local councillors.

 

 

Another option, provided you follow the rules for taking photos in public places, is to set up a Facebook page of illegal parkers, along with a note that since the council has chosen to do nothing you've decided to address the problem yourself. That will hopefully shake something loose.

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  #3029964 31-Jan-2023 14:52
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msukiwi:

 

The world is getting more and more like:

 

The easy way to stop the ram raids!

 

Leave the doors open!

 

Think positive: At least you don't have to repair the building!

 

 

 

 

A friend left his car unlocked, just had a steering wheel bar to stop it being stolen.

 

They smashed a window then crowbared the glove box open (not locked).

 

 

 

They never even checked the doors etc.


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  #3029976 31-Jan-2023 15:38
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sir1963:A friend left his car unlocked, just had a steering wheel bar to stop it being stolen.

 

They smashed a window then crowbared the glove box open (not locked).

 

They never even checked the doors etc.

 

= NO Risk of leaving fingerprints or DNA this way!


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  #3030001 31-Jan-2023 16:34
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msukiwi:

 

= NO Risk of leaving fingerprints or DNA this way!

 

 

Who is going to bother collecting DNA for a car burglary? Or even fingerprints, for that matter?

 

 





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  #3030008 31-Jan-2023 16:50
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Rikkitic:Who is going to bother collecting DNA for a car burglary? Or even fingerprints, for that matter?

 

Probably a crim who remembers the "old days" when Police actually bothered to!


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  #3030010 31-Jan-2023 16:55
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msukiwi:

 

Rikkitic:Who is going to bother collecting DNA for a car burglary? Or even fingerprints, for that matter?

 

Probably a crim who remembers the "old days" when Police actually bothered to!

 

 

the police took fingerprints when my car was broken into in my garage and it led to an arrest so it can happen. Mind you it didnt bring my stuff back so i didnt really care.





Common sense is not as common as you think.


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  #3030070 31-Jan-2023 19:34
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vexxxboy:

 

the police took fingerprints when my car was broken into in my garage and it led to an arrest so it can happen. Mind you it didnt bring my stuff back so i didnt really care.

 

 

 

 

Last time it happened to us they said it would probably be look at in a week, but here is a number for your insurance.

 

 

 

Was not worth claiming for (excess + no claims)

 

And was not worth informing police, that just took time for nothing.


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  #3030076 31-Jan-2023 19:46
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neb: It requires systemic changes in both provision of transport and, more importantly, re-educating parents that it's perfectly appropriate to have your kids walk to the school that's two blocks away.

 

This isn't supported by the legislation, the coroner or the reality of life for most families.

 

You are required by law to provide reasonable supervision and care to a child under the age of 14 years old. In a large number of households both parents work so walking the kids to school isn't practical or, in many cases, safe. 

 

There needs to be areas where parents can pickup or drop off their kids. That is the reality of life today.


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  #3030103 31-Jan-2023 22:00
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Handle9:

 

neb: It requires systemic changes in both provision of transport and, more importantly, re-educating parents that it's perfectly appropriate to have your kids walk to the school that's two blocks away.

 

This isn't supported by the legislation, the coroner or the reality of life for most families.

 

You are required by law to provide reasonable supervision and care to a child under the age of 14 years old. In a large number of households both parents work so walking the kids to school isn't practical or, in many cases, safe. 

 

There needs to be areas where parents can pickup or drop off their kids. That is the reality of life today.

 

 

If you are over the age of 8 and do not understand basic road safety, I pity them. Ok, I grew up in a small town, but I walked every morning to school because the older kids would pick us younger ones on the way past (they call it a walking bus nowadays), and we actually knew there were consequences if we played silly sods and did not listen ( I did a whole weekend grubbing thistles out of a paddock at aged 6 because of my stupidity)

 

When my kids went to intermediate school (works after school program did not accepts kids that age) they were expected to walk to my work, a good 3km away. I walked with them the 1st week, then it was up to them. By the time they got there it was home time for me. I got abused by one mother over this and she demanded to know what happens when it rains, I told her they wear a rain coat and walk a little faster. When the eldest one got to high school he ended up walking about 5km every day to get home. If it was REALLY bad weather I would pick them up, but neither of them melted.

 

My eldest is in his 30's and still walks 30-40,000 steps a day, even when he is not at work.

 

It was REALLY noticeable when I was doing cubs/scouts as a leader which kids had been molly-coddled by the parents, and which had learned a modicum of self reliance, there were those who practically had to be told what to do all of the time because they had no clue, and those that were always ready to do the next thing. We had kids who did not bring their sleeping bags because "mum did not pack it", they waited until they were told to make their own breakfast and to clean up after themselves, etc etc etc.

 

Self reliance brings with it a certain resilience , that when things go wrong you pick yourself up and carry on rather than wait for someone to fix it for you, pat you on the head and say "poor dear".

 

 

 

Yes, I know..."Lived in shoebox middle of the road", but there is still a lot of truth in it.


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  #3030106 31-Jan-2023 22:17
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Handle9:

 

neb: It requires systemic changes in both provision of transport and, more importantly, re-educating parents that it's perfectly appropriate to have your kids walk to the school that's two blocks away.

 

This isn't supported by the legislation, the coroner or the reality of life for most families.

 

You are required by law to provide reasonable supervision and care to a child under the age of 14 years old. In a large number of households both parents work so walking the kids to school isn't practical or, in many cases, safe. 

 

There needs to be areas where parents can pickup or drop off their kids. That is the reality of life today.

 

 

The thing is schools need to build their own areas for this to happen. No other business would be allowed to cause that level of congestion in an urban area, in fact things with less problems have been held up with resource consent objections like supermarkets over the lesser level of traffic they would cause.

 

Schools should have to provide an off road pickup/dropoff area before any expansion of them is allowed. More infill housing means more students that need to be catered for so if the school cant provide busses or other alternates then their expansion should be denied until they are able to sort it out.





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  #3030111 31-Jan-2023 22:24
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sir1963:

Yes, I know..."Lived in shoebox middle of the road", but there is still a lot of truth in it.

 

 

Yup, that was my reaction too. Almost everyone who's ever walked the earth in at least the last four to five thousand years has walked to one form of school or another (at least if there was one) without it leading to mass extinction events. In any country other than the US and a few hangers-on like NZ this is still the norm, the photo below is of two kids walking home from school in an area that's probably more dangerous than anywhere in NZ, and it's a long walk. I doubt the parents are terribly concerned, they're capable of looking after themselves:

 

 

 

 

It's only in the last ten or so years that it's become seen as some sort of requirement that you chauffeur them there and back in a diesel-fume-belching SUV. For anyone over the age of, I dunno, twenty or so, can you imagine what sort of response you'd have gotten if, after breakfast, you'd said "mum/dad, can you drive me to school now?".

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  #3030125 31-Jan-2023 22:57
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neb:
sir1963:

Yes, I know..."Lived in shoebox middle of the road", but there is still a lot of truth in it.



Yup, that was my reaction too. Almost everyone who's ever walked the earth in at least the last four to five thousand years has walked to one form of school or another (at least if there was one) without it leading to mass extinction events. In any country other than the US and a few hangers-on like NZ this is still the norm, the photo below is of two kids walking home from school in an area that's probably more dangerous than anywhere in NZ, and it's a long walk. I doubt the parents are terribly concerned, they're capable of looking after themselves:



It's only in the last ten or so years that it's become seen as some sort of requirement that you chauffeur them there and back in a diesel-fume-belching SUV. For anyone over the age of, I dunno, twenty or so, can you imagine what sort of response you'd have gotten if, after breakfast, you'd said "mum/dad, can you drive me to school now?".


I’ve got a close friend who’s brother was killed as a pedestrian. He was 9, back in the 80s when we were all “resilient and had common sense”.

The population and number of cars on the road was dramatically less back then but it still happened.

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  #3030128 31-Jan-2023 23:21
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richms:

Handle9:


This isn't supported by the legislation, the coroner or the reality of life for most families.


You are required by law to provide reasonable supervision and care to a child under the age of 14 years old. In a large number of households both parents work so walking the kids to school isn't practical or, in many cases, safe. 


There needs to be areas where parents can pickup or drop off their kids. That is the reality of life today.



The thing is schools need to build their own areas for this to happen. No other business would be allowed to cause that level of congestion in an urban area, in fact things with less problems have been held up with resource consent objections like supermarkets over the lesser level of traffic they would cause.


Schools should have to provide an off road pickup/dropoff area before any expansion of them is allowed. More infill housing means more students that need to be catered for so if the school cant provide busses or other alternates then their expansion should be denied until they are able to sort it out.



Which means that you need to pay for it with more taxes. That of course isn’t palatable so it gets socialised in a different way.

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  #3030130 31-Jan-2023 23:23
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Wayne brown, and Simeon Brown, and Len Brown.

And the fact that there doesn't seem to be any way to get rid of an incompetent mayor...

Government has opposition and processes if you are really bad at your job but it doesn't seem to be the same for councils and mayors.




Doing your best is much more important than being the best.


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