yep i like it too and it took me less than 2 minutes to think of the colours and their meanings behind the tri stripes. flags dont have to be complicated to mean something. i agree about the plain stripes being better and thats why i didnt like the fern imprints in the green stripe when i did it. i think it would have looked odd as a flag.

as for auckland, im not saying its not great, im saying it should not be the only city in NZ (there are equally beautiful areas in NZ to live and work) because its devastating to such a beautiful fragile area when so many beautiful areas exist. the devastation its had to the coastal fauna and flora is gut wrenching let alone the sea bed. so whilst i appreciate it is so lovely to someone who has immigrated already and has a property in Auckland for me personally its looks the opposite. you look at how much trash is on our beaches and its just accepted, people often just walk bye a plastic bottle instead of picking it up and carrying it to the bin or even worse all the way home simply because it isnt "theirs".

id hardly be worried about retirees in auckland from overseas if you think auckland beaches are nice when they find sydney and its surrounding areas. proper surf beaches with white sand not mud ;-p

anyway this is pointless trying to convince those that have immigrated to the destruction having one city in NZ has made if you hadnt seen it prior. take a look at the resident species of crayfish and snapper at goat island for instance, the lowest ever recorded. of course their can be vast reasons for biodiversity, but my point is its what you cant see thats even scarier.

what do you think happened to all the sediment to make upper reaches of auckland or if we drill through the seabed... (although im all for north shore rail link not some half done job)

is the price of "auckland is nice" and ill enjoy it while im around worth it to the generations to follow? im talking sustainability.

and the point is the link is about working visas. which personally id never move to a city where rent is substantially cheaper and then buy a house. so i dont think we have much to worry about there.

anyway this is totally off point back to whether the flag should change and why.