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#573800 26-Jan-2012 19:31

@lyonrouge down with the system except in court? I don't know of or have even heard of any of them having any respect for court orders, they wanted to stay regardless. I've heard there's been arrests, is that so? How lame... also - do you actually think that the benefit system can prevent or solve homelessness!? No way, not at present though it is a viable solution. If it does then why are there homeless people at all?

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#573814 26-Jan-2012 19:47

the freedom campers have no respect for the system, but want to use the court system.

your last question is very good one, there is no reason for "homelessness in NZ", hence why I dispute the claim

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#573817 26-Jan-2012 19:51

@kissysellout, is English your second language or are my posts ambiguous? I think we are not so far appart on views but separated by a common language?

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#573847 26-Jan-2012 20:55

@KissySellOut : are you not in NZ at the moment?

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#573951 27-Jan-2012 08:42

KiwiNZ:
KissySellOut: @KiwiNZ unless that view point is based on solid fact and actual experience (and I know for sure it isn't the former) then you're just stereotyping and I don't appreciate the prejudice.

KissySellOut

One just has to walk past the "camp" to see that the Wellington group is the City's homeless, addicts and 'street people'

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6256381/Occupy-Wellington-protesters-may-be-ousted

I did not come down in the last shower and have worked etc in the city for a very long time.

+1

Incidentally, I've decided to throw in my lot with the 1% who allegedly rule the planet and control all the resources rather than the representatives of the 99%. Theres just something more appealling interacting with people who shower.

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#573953 27-Jan-2012 08:53

Incidentally, I've decided to throw in my lot with the 1% who allegedly rule the planet and control all the resources rather than the representatives of the 99%. Theres just something more appealling interacting with people who shower.

+1

I'm going with the occupy a job movement.

I find the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have :-)

I'm not a complete idiot, I still have some parts missing.

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#573960 27-Jan-2012 09:01

If these Occupy people had real issues and a real desire to bring change here is a suggestion.

Go home or to the City mission have a shower, put on clean clothes form a political party. Formulate a workable manifesto and stand for election at the next election. Do this instead of abusing the public, fouling public parks and drawing subsidies from those you revile.

You may be able to bring change via the correct democratic process.

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#573968 27-Jan-2012 09:12

KiwiNZ: If these Occupy people had real issues and a real desire to bring change here is a suggestion.

Go home or to the City mission have a shower, put on clean clothes form a political party. Formulate a workable manifesto and stand for election at the next election. Do this instead of abusing the public, fouling public parks and drawing subsidies from those you revile.

You may be able to bring change via the correct democratic process.

+1000

I'm not a complete idiot, I still have some parts missing.

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#573970 27-Jan-2012 09:14

sittingduckz:

Incidentally, I've decided to throw in my lot with the 1% who allegedly rule the planet and control all the resources rather than the representatives of the 99%. Theres just something more appealling interacting with people who shower.

+1

I'm going with the occupy a job movement.

I find the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have :-)

Strange you should say that, I've been a part of the occupy a job movement for a while now and it seems that the longer I stay in it the more skills and money I seem to pick up...coincidence? Maybe...

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#574073 27-Jan-2012 13:21

KiwiNZ: If these Occupy people had real issues and a real desire to bring change here is a suggestion.

Go home or to the City mission have a shower, put on clean clothes form a political party. Formulate a workable manifesto and stand for election at the next election. Do this instead of abusing the public, fouling public parks and drawing subsidies from those you revile.

You may be able to bring change via the correct democratic process.

Ha you make me laugh. The latest election shows that would be futile. The largest group of NZers don't look past the grinning mug of the person fronting the party.

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#574074 27-Jan-2012 13:27

Skolink:
KiwiNZ: If these Occupy people had real issues and a real desire to bring change here is a suggestion.

Go home or to the City mission have a shower, put on clean clothes form a political party. Formulate a workable manifesto and stand for election at the next election. Do this instead of abusing the public, fouling public parks and drawing subsidies from those you revile.

You may be able to bring change via the correct democratic process.

Ha you make me laugh. The latest election shows that would be futile. The largest group of NZers don't look past the grinning mug of the person fronting the party.

So you would prefer we didn't have elections then.

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#574091 27-Jan-2012 14:08

KiwiNZ: So you would prefer we didn't have elections then.

Perhaps if Ramón Castro was interested.

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#574102 27-Jan-2012 14:21

Skolink:
KiwiNZ: So you would prefer we didn't have elections then.

Perhaps if Ramón Castro was interested.

Dictatorship of the proletariat? Anyone?

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#574160 27-Jan-2012 16:35

lyonrouge: @kissysellout, is English your second language or are my posts ambiguous? I think we are not so far appart on views but separated by a common language?

Dude.... I'm from the UK, go figure (there is one common language there and not surprisingly it is English). Your posts really aren't all that ambiguous, not at all in fact. How did you figure that exactly..? Actually Lyon, I'd say it's the opposite, our language might be the same but our views are pretty different on this subject at least. Have been from the start. If it came down to it and some anarchist (for example) is either going to be locked up without good cause for who knows how long or go to court and do things reasonably, some how I think I'd go with court and so would this hypothetical anarchist. This hasn't been about the legal system anyway - it is about the banks and similar institutions, even the government itself for some. Also yes, I am in New Zealand, why? Do you want to go for a coffee? ;)

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#574169 27-Jan-2012 16:45

I was serious with my post regarding the 'occupy' movement forming a political party. They will be more likely to be listen to and it's easier to change the system from within the system.

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