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#2482022 12-May-2020 15:25

The fact that people below a certain age seem to be unable to converse in a way that does not make me want to brain them with a blunt object. I watched a video phone review and after 4 minutes or so the awful diction, bizarre inflections, random uses of 'like', 'sort of' 'I'm going to go ahead and say" and similar nonsense filler just made me turn it off.

Why do people think it is somehow useful to come across as a bit dim?

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#2482024 12-May-2020 15:28

Handsomedan:

Frighteningly, I saw an interview with a guy in the States who had just acquired some new guns and a bulk-lot of ammo right at the start of the panic-buying season, who intended to "stand my ground" and basically shoot anyone that came onto his lawn.

His rationale was as above - only he stopped at the zombie apocalypse bit...just said there'd be looting and unrest. And his State had the "stand your ground" law, apparently (I had to look it up - it's quite frightening).

A stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) establishes a right by which a person may defend one's self or others (right of self-defense) against threats or perceived threats, even to the point of applying lethal force

I find that law sensible, not frightening. Why should you not have the right to defend yourself and your family? You would have the right to make a defence based on the same thing here, the only difference is that some states in the US save you the time and expense of being arrested and employing lawyers to argue the case.

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#2482037 12-May-2020 15:50

Geektastic:

I find that law sensible, not frightening. Why should you not have the right to defend yourself and your family? You would have the right to make a defence based on the same thing here, the only difference is that some states in the US save you the time and expense of being arrested and employing lawyers to argue the case.

The reason it's frightening is that it gives the shooter (or should I say law abiding citizen) the opportunity to shoot someone on their lawn and hide behind a thin veil of "I felt threatened".

How would you like to be throwing a frisbee or kicking a ball and have it go slightly astray, only to be shot as you step onto someone's property to collect it?

That's what can and does happen under that type of law (and many Redneck-types will use it to justify homicide).

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#2482042 12-May-2020 16:08

Senecio: Really, we haven't had any disruption to our recycling collection. The truck has come every second Monday at 7:20am just like clockwork before the lockdown.

I didn't phrase it correctly. They do physically collect it, but treat it as rubbish and don't actually recycle it. Recycling processing resumes on Thursday.

Different councils may do different things though!

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#2482045 12-May-2020 16:13

Handsomedan:

The reason it's frightening is that it gives the shooter (or should I say law abiding citizen) the opportunity to shoot someone on their lawn and hide behind a thin veil of "I felt threatened".

How would you like to be throwing a frisbee or kicking a ball and have it go slightly astray, only to be shot as you step onto someone's property to collect it?

That's what can and does happen under that type of law (and many Redneck-types will use it to justify homicide).

If I sent a ball over the fence I'd approach the front door and ask the owner permission to access their property, but under no circumstance would I ever just wander onto someone else land uninvited. So many different ways this can go wrong.

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#2482055 12-May-2020 16:28

Geektastic:

Sure, you do have a right to defend your family and property but the law states you may do so with reasonable force only.

You don’t want to be in a position of pleading innocent to assault rather than use of reasonable force. Proving you had a fight/flight responce won’t be easy.

That said, if someone’s maliciously on my property who knows how I’d respond to defend my family.

You're not on Atlantis anymore, Duncan Idaho.

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#2482105 12-May-2020 18:03

Because I'd argue that it justifies escalating conflict.

I'm not going to back down or retreat because law says I can just stand here.

Coupled with ridiculous access to firearms it results in needless deaths.

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#2482109 12-May-2020 18:06

Handsomedan:
Geektastic:

I find that law sensible, not frightening. Why should you not have the right to defend yourself and your family? You would have the right to make a defence based on the same thing here, the only difference is that some states in the US save you the time and expense of being arrested and employing lawyers to argue the case.

The reason it's frightening is that it gives the shooter (or should I say law abiding citizen) the opportunity to shoot someone on their lawn and hide behind a thin veil of "I felt threatened".

How would you like to be throwing a frisbee or kicking a ball and have it go slightly astray, only to be shot as you step onto someone's property to collect it?

That's what can and does happen under that type of law (and many Redneck-types will use it to justify homicide).

Or the case of the Japanese exchange student who knocked on door asking for ditections and was shot by house owner standing his ground because he was scared of someone who wasnt white like him.

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#2482142 12-May-2020 18:46

MadEngineer: That said, if someone’s maliciously on my property who knows how I’d respond to defend my family.

This "stand your ground " law leads to an "arms race" where someone who maliciously enters your property *must* shoot you as soon as you discover them (or they discover you) because they know that you would shoot them.

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#2482149 12-May-2020 19:00

Never mind the ones who get shot because they are the wrong colour and the shooter feels 'threatened'.

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#2482512 13-May-2020 09:13

networkn:

Handsomedan:

The reason it's frightening is that it gives the shooter (or should I say law abiding citizen) the opportunity to shoot someone on their lawn and hide behind a thin veil of "I felt threatened".

How would you like to be throwing a frisbee or kicking a ball and have it go slightly astray, only to be shot as you step onto someone's property to collect it?

That's what can and does happen under that type of law (and many Redneck-types will use it to justify homicide).

If I sent a ball over the fence I'd approach the front door and ask the owner permission to access their property, but under no circumstance would I ever just wander onto someone else land uninvited. So many different ways this can go wrong.

So in the case of a frisbee landing on an unfenced front yard, you'd go knock on a stranger's door, while passing the said frisbee, as opposed to just grabbing it and going on about your harmless business?

I'd make a show for anyone watching taht I am simply getting the frisbee and I'd be loud and deliberate about it, but yeah...I'd get the frisbee and forego the door knocking.

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#2482698 13-May-2020 12:46

Handsomedan:

So in the case of a frisbee landing on an unfenced front yard, you'd go knock on a stranger's door, while passing the said frisbee, as opposed to just grabbing it and going on about your harmless business?

I'd make a show for anyone watching taht I am simply getting the frisbee and I'd be loud and deliberate about it, but yeah...I'd get the frisbee and forego the door knocking.

Ditto - all our neighbors know each other and that's pretty much what we all do. One of ours has even baby-sat or us!

You're not on Atlantis anymore, Duncan Idaho.

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#2482797 13-May-2020 14:29

My brain. I have a pair of pliers. They are great pliers. I love those pliers. I use them all the time. I depend on them. I can't use anything else. Only those pliers work for me.

Today I had to fix a small mounting bracket. I reached for my beloved pliers. After some fiddling and a few trips back and forth to the car, the job was finished. Only now I can't find my pliers! Not a trace of them. They can only be in two places, my car or the room where I was working on the bracket. I have searched both repeatedly. The pliers are not there. They are not in the drawer where I always put them away to prevent precisely this kind of issue. They are nowhere to be found. I have no idea where they could have gone.

This kind of thing happens to me almost on a daily basis. That is why I hate my brain.

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#2482801 13-May-2020 14:33

Handsomedan:

Geektastic:

I find that law sensible, not frightening. Why should you not have the right to defend yourself and your family? You would have the right to make a defence based on the same thing here, the only difference is that some states in the US save you the time and expense of being arrested and employing lawyers to argue the case.

The reason it's frightening is that it gives the shooter (or should I say law abiding citizen) the opportunity to shoot someone on their lawn and hide behind a thin veil of "I felt threatened".

How would you like to be throwing a frisbee or kicking a ball and have it go slightly astray, only to be shot as you step onto someone's property to collect it?

That's what can and does happen under that type of law (and many Redneck-types will use it to justify homicide).

I'd probably seek permission first. As I would now.

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#2482857 13-May-2020 16:10

Rikkitic:

My brain. I have a pair of pliers. They are great pliers. I love those pliers. I use them all the time. I depend on them. I can't use anything else. Only those pliers work for me.

Today I had to fix a small mounting bracket. I reached for my beloved pliers. After some fiddling and a few trips back and forth to the car, the job was finished. Only now I can't find my pliers! Not a trace of them. They can only be in two places, my car or the room where I was working on the bracket. I have searched both repeatedly. The pliers are not there. They are not in the drawer where I always put them away to prevent precisely this kind of issue. They are nowhere to be found. I have no idea where they could have gone.

This kind of thing happens to me almost on a daily basis. That is why I hate my brain.

From The Meaning of Liff by Douglas Adams

Kelling (ptcpl. vb.): The action of looking for something all over again in the places you've already looked.

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