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Topic # 113080 4-Jan-2013 22:15
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This morning I was behind an undercover cop car with no lights or sirens on doing 63 kph in a 50 kph area.
My speedo said 57 / 58 .. yes I was doing over 50.. so sue me. There was an ever increasing distance between me and the cop car in front. My car is not old, does not have aftermarket rims or any other such modifications. Infact it has only done 2000 k's and was built last year. If my speedo is over by 5 kph from factory the cop was still doing over 50. The point is without a doubt police do over 50 kph in 50 kph areas when they are not on duty, or on a job with (lights and/or sirens). 

  • Why should I get a ticket for doing 55 in a 50 when they do the same?
  • It should not be one rule for them and another for everyone else
  • I am not against police but can they + the government just admit getting as ticket for doing 55 in a 50 is unreasonable

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  Reply # 740303 4-Jan-2013 22:24
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  Reply # 740305 4-Jan-2013 22:26
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How do you know they weren't on a job? Just because there were no lights or sirens doesn't mean they weren't heading somewhere where they didn't want to alert potential criminals.

Also, cop cars do get tickets, and the officers have to personally pay them if they aren't for genuine police business reasons.



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  Reply # 740310 4-Jan-2013 22:35
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I thought the had to have lights and / or sirens on while doing a job? What about the danger to other road users while they are doing their dangerous 63 kph without any visual or audio warning systems.

My point is you can't tell me they sit right on 50 , 70 , 80 , 100 all the time. So why should people get done for 53 , 55 kph etc.

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  Reply # 740311 4-Jan-2013 22:38
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Your speedo is likely out by up to 10% Very few vehicles have accurate speedos

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  Reply # 740312 4-Jan-2013 22:42
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qwerty7: I thought the had to have lights and / or sirens on while doing a job? What about the danger to other road users while they are doing their dangerous 63 kph without any visual or audio warning systems.

My point is you can't tell me they sit right on 50 , 70 , 80 , 100 all the time. So why should people get done for 53 , 55 kph etc.


Police do get tickets for speeding when not on duty.

I'm a teacher, I tell my kids off for swearing.

Brothers a builder he doesn't always build his own or mates stuff to code

list goes on.  

People aren't perfect and people don't always follow the rules

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  Reply # 740313 4-Jan-2013 22:48
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No they don't have to have lights and sirens on when going to a job,

The police are trained to judge road and traffic conditions if they need these on,

I ride a Suzuki GSXR1000 do you think I ride smack on 100k in a 100k zone?

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  Reply # 740315 4-Jan-2013 22:50
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Just curious. Can you clarify how you knew it was an 'undercover' police car?




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Reply # 740317 4-Jan-2013 22:51
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BigHammer: Just curious. Can you clarify how you knew it was an 'undercover' police car?


Big sign in the back window ' This is a undercover cop car '

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  Reply # 740323 4-Jan-2013 23:07
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querty7: I am not against police but can they + the government just admit getting as ticket for doing 55 in a 50 is unreasonable

Limit has to be set somewhere. There are 50k areas where even 50k is unsafe and very reasonable to hand out a ticket for 55. Your blanket rule is not that useful.

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  Reply # 740327 4-Jan-2013 23:30
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BigHammer: Just curious. Can you clarify how you knew it was an 'undercover' police car?


I can spot them a mile off.... extra antenna, steel wheels, lights on the dash and in the rear window..... 




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  Reply # 740328 4-Jan-2013 23:40
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xpd:
BigHammer: Just curious. Can you clarify how you knew it was an 'undercover' police car?


I can spot them a mile off.... extra antenna, steel wheels, lights on the dash and in the rear window..... 


I suspect you saw a plainclothes car then ;) (@Dratsab or someone can confirm the terminology)

Also - aforementioned steel rims are always filthy with brake dust.




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  Reply # 740329 4-Jan-2013 23:41
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They will call in speed camera flashes to comms if they are on their way to a job, however, they have to be on the way to a job that is a high priority.

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  Reply # 740332 4-Jan-2013 23:54
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Relevant but not directly...

The latest fleet update includes no window lights ;)

Rear LEDs in the normal lights, and flashers stealthed behind the front grille. And the antenna is smaller and in some cases attached to the inside of the bodywork. (And can be running standard dark holden rims)

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  Reply # 740334 5-Jan-2013 00:19
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How do you know it was going at 63?

Your speedo wasnt perfect and it was going faster than you.

X + y = 63 when x and y are both unknown

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  Reply # 740337 5-Jan-2013 01:04
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Speedo tolerances are affected by tyre pressure, heat , wear (diameter) and both mechanical and electronic speedo accuracy it's amazing that a zero tolerance rule can be applied everytime we have a holiday.

The major issue is that every time you reposition your eyes from say 200m up the road, shift your eyes to the speedo, 30cm, refocus and then reposition and refocus back on the object 200m ahead of you , you have used approximately 400ms.
at 100km/h you cover 27.7 m/s. so thats 11.08 meters you cover blind whilst checking your speedo. If we want safer motoring we need people to be monitoring moving information on or near the road surface, not interupting their vision by focusing on a dial on the dash board. We need people to travel at roughly the same speed as each other, have bigger following distances and to constantly think about what is ahead, and what might happen. We need people to think about simple physics and weight transfer. None of which is taught to drivers unless the complete a hands on course on a race track at a cost of $300-$500

speed isn't the issue, attention is.

I live on a busy road in Hamilton where police regularly pass our house at high speed. On occasion Ive seen speeds that I can estimate accurately over 180km/h . ( each white line being 6m from the next) I'm sure there aren't as many people murdered or in serious need of urgent assistance as there are speeding cops down our road. I'm also certain that a cop in pursuit of a speeding motorist is also highly dangerous, far more dangerous than the infringing motorist. Most police reach over 160km/h in a simple slow/stop/turn around/pursuit maneuver that lasts for 2 minutes if the infringing car is at 105km/h. The training the police receive is above the level that the average motorist receives but it's not overly significant. Police cars still run standard tyres and brakes and are quite heavy models of car, so they are not ideal as pursuit vehicles.

I once I called *555 to report a police car traveling at a sustained 120km/h between Ohakune and National Park. The operator told me to stop wasting their time. I sympathise with the OP. In reality it's a simple, easy to legislate against factor and everyone including MP's and their advisors are brainwashed to think speeding is THE main factor in car accidents. If the speed limit was there for your safety it would be an impractical 25-30km/h for roads without median barriers.

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