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#154661 3-Nov-2014 20:03
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Should they or shouldn't they ?? , I loved my fireworks when I was a kid but back then we had rockets and the likes of tom thumbs and double happy's (sp), hell yeah we used to blow the hell out of everything when I was a kid.

I am in two minds of if they should be banned from public sale or not to be honest. I think the natural evolution is that they will be but it may be a few years before it becomes a reality.





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  #1167967 3-Nov-2014 20:05
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I am also split.. they can be great fun, but more and more people are idiots with them and hurt themselves or, worse, others.

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  #1167969 3-Nov-2014 20:08
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I dont think they are suitable for an urban environment. IMO dont restrict the sale of them entirely, just limit where people are legally allowed to use them and fine those that break it signifigantly to deter it. Keep it out of citys and its fine.




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  #1167970 3-Nov-2014 20:09
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No, fireworks should not be banned from public sale. The issues with abuse of fireworks are the direct result of problems in society.

Banning sky rockets and imposing limits on explosive powder was a mistake. It has resulted in even more dangerous and annoying (loud) fireworks than we ever had previously.

What they government should consider is reducing noise levels, increasing the limits on power quantity so lower-energy compositions can be used, and bring back sky rockets.

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  #1167971 3-Nov-2014 20:10
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Inphinity: I am also split.. they can be great fun, but more and more people are idiots with them and hurt themselves or, worse, others.


True, but just because some dumb idiots speed doesn't mean we should make all speed limits 50km/h. Our laws needs to cater for the majority, not those who will remove themselves from the gene-pool.

I had loads of fun blowing stuff up in SA with all manner of fireworks, it's part of growing up and my father taught me how to use them safely.

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  #1167972 3-Nov-2014 20:13
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Presso: Should they or shouldn't they ?? , I loved my fireworks when I was a kid but back then we had rockets and the likes of tom thumbs and double happy's (sp), hell yeah we used to blow the hell out of everything when I was a kid.

I am in two minds of if they should be banned from public sale or not to be honest. I think the natural evolution is that they will be but it may be a few years before it becomes a reality.



Absolutely ban them.  NZ is not the same place as 30 years ago. 

In-fill housing means we live closer to our neighbours, and  super cheap fireworks mean that many people buy enough to last all year round. 

Last year I had people setting off fireworks for months after the official guy fawkes ended -- i don't recall that happening when I was younger.

The year before that was even worse. 

At minimum, I could live just a ban on setting them off outside guy fawkes, and perhaps new years eve. Hard to police but give it a try perhaps. 


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  #1167975 3-Nov-2014 20:27
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Sorry, ban them from sale to the public. Way too many people are idiots with them, including setting them off at all hours, as well as the usual fire hazards, etc.

Councils tend to put on displays each year, now,  that are way better than anything you could do in your backyard. Leave the fireworks to the professionals.

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Absolutely should not be banned. How else are kids going to find out not to play with fire?! 

What should be banned are all the muppets out there that have such a massive issue with fireworks. They have been around for 1000's of years and aren't going anywhere.

 
 
 
 


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  #1167978 3-Nov-2014 20:35
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I used to blow my mothers roses to bits and got many a hiding for doing so. Remember the ones that never went off, you used to bend them in half until they broke and then lit the powder, how in hell I never hurt myself I'll  never know.




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  #1167981 3-Nov-2014 20:40
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chevrolux: Absolutely should not be banned. How else are kids going to find out not to play with fire?! 

What should be banned are all the muppets out there that have such a massive issue with fireworks. They have been around for 1000's of years and aren't going anywhere.


muppets is subjective, ban the fireworks it serves no purpose other than annoying a lot of people and causing untold damage. 

Have public displays by all means but there is no way that you can control the idiots other than banning them.




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  #1167984 3-Nov-2014 20:43
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surfisup1000:

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In-fill housing means we live closer to our neighbours, and  super cheap fireworks mean that many people buy enough to last all year round. 

Last year I had people setting off fireworks for months after the official guy fawkes ended -- i don't recall that happening when I was younger.

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I actually agree with those statements. In urban areas I'd prefer they all get set loose on one or two nights of the year, but not banned. The problem we had last year was it rained on and around Guy Fawkes night, meaning it took ages for people to get through their boxes over the days which followed.

I really don't understand how Auckland Council's decision to ban them from public areas is going to reduce the annoyance they cause to neighbours and pets, if anything now everyone is going to be annoyed! I've got my stash of really large roman candles, I'll test my theory out on Wednesday :)




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  #1168000 3-Nov-2014 20:51
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I went to school in the '70s with a guy called Alex Wisnowski.  When he was about 14, he had an accident when drilling the fuse-hole he'd forgotten to drill in piece of bicycle handlebar tube that he'd already sealed and packed with ANFO.  A very grisly photo of him taken at admission to A&E was used by the anti-fireworks lobby in their initial campaigns against fireworks. This was very disingenuous IMO.
Another idiot managed to run over a kid in driveway today - and I bet several kids were admitted to A&E with serious injury resulting from abuse, and many others with illness resulting from neglect.
Fireworks do p*ss me off a bit these days - but we need to get a grip on things.  They were a hell of lot of fun.

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  #1168012 3-Nov-2014 21:06
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Yes

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  #1168014 3-Nov-2014 21:07
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Ban them and allow public displays only and, perhaps, special licenses for one-off private events. 

 

Even when I was a kid they were dangerous. At a private bonfire on a farm, I got the scar on my back from a kid dropping a firework down my top. It only takes a minute for kids to do something stupid. A friend lost his eye that same year. This was well supervised with plenty of adults around. The boys were fastter than the adults.

 

I was teaching my kid how to handle sparklers safely when the phosphorus fell off a sparkler onto my hand. Thank heavens she wasn't holding it. Phosphorus burns are excruciating. Trip to the hospital later and I have lovely scars left on my hand. Nobody keeps records of how many people get badly burned by sparklers so we keep on giving them to little kids. 

Last year, neighbours let off fireworks that set my house roof on fire. The fire brigade responded very quickly but I can tell you that I am terrified tonight because fireworks are going off on every property around my house. 

I HATE fireworks sales. In this area, every year, people fire the things off for months, at all hours of the night. This means the rest of us do not have quiet enjoyment of our own homes. This year I don't have a pet but the effects on my dogs in the past few years were enough to make anyone cry. 
So, have your fun if you like but for some of us firework sale season is sheer hell. A ban on private sales can't come fast enough for me.



 

 

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Absolutely No! How else am I supposed to sate my inner pyromaniac! ;-)

I remember I had a stash of skyrockets for nearly 10 years after they were banned. Might have to do it again if they're banned outright!

It's unfortunate you get the idiots who misuse them get all the press and all the 'do-gooders' wanting to ban them.

ANYTHING can be misused/abused but don't forget the many thousands of people who safely use them and have a great time doing so...

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  #1168022 3-Nov-2014 21:15
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If people were able to isolate their use to their own property then I would be okay with them, but as long as my private property is subject to the noise, debris, animal distress and fire risk I will continue to advocate a ban.

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