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#2681234 26-Mar-2021 17:58

There is a ground station in Southland and I'm pretty sure the cells from the satellites don't reach that far. I would say they are just backhauling traffic to Sydney, where Google is announcing the Starlink NZ /24. Google doesn't have a presence in New Zealand so it makes sense to, for now at least, just backhaul to Sydney and then "talk" to the internet from there.

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#2681245 26-Mar-2021 18:36

Do we know where the Starlink DNS server is located?

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#2681275 26-Mar-2021 21:18

Here is some Starlink info

Public IP addresses 103.152.126.112;103.152.126.113;102.152.126.115 These are addresses I have seen. customer.syd1.mc.starlinkisp.net

Uses G-NAT so no fixed IP addresses are available. (Note: Starlink has advised that they are working on iPV6)

I use a Fortigate 30E
Set your third party router WAN port to DHCP.
You will need to set a static route to 192.168.100.0/24 if you want to receive the Stats page in the when using third party router

I received a private address in the following range 100.80.0.1-100.80.63.254 100.80.0.0/18 netmask 255.255.192.0

Default GW 100.127.255.4

These are the routes from router for Starlink
Network Gateway Distance
100.64.0.0/10 0.0.0.0 0
fe80::/64 :: 0
0.0.0.0/0 100.127.255.4 1
192.168.100.0/24 0.0.0.0 3 (For Stats)

traceTracert to 1.1.1.1
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.5.5.1
2 69 ms 69 ms 69 ms 136.22.99.33 Owned by GoogleWifi CA/USA
3 71 ms 72 ms 72 ms 142.250.164.64 Google Canada
4 68 ms 68 ms 68 ms 218.100.52.11 as13335.nsw.ix.asn.au
5 62 ms 64 ms 64 ms 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare Sydney

Tracert to 8.8.8.8
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.5.5.1
2 67 ms 69 ms 69 ms 136.22.99.33
3 69 ms 68 ms 65 ms 142.250.160.254
4 66 ms 69 ms 65 ms 108.170.247.33
5 68 ms 69 ms 68 ms 209.85.253.177
6 62 ms 65 ms 64 ms 8.8.8.8

Tracing route to spark.co.nz [146.171.248.36]

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.5.5.1
2 64 ms 60 ms 60 ms 136.22.99.33
3 62 ms 80 ms 61 ms 142.250.160.254
4 66 ms 67 ms 66 ms 108.170.247.71
5 66 ms 68 ms 69 ms 72.14.217.101
6 69 ms 76 ms 66 ms 202.50.232.245
7 93 ms 90 ms 93 ms 202.50.232.109
8 90 ms 93 ms 96 ms 122.56.119.54
9 120 ms 96 ms 96 ms 203.96.65.194

Hope this info helps answer any of the network questions

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#2681276 26-Mar-2021 21:25

Some more ping times from this evening, Location: Port Hills Christchurch. Over the last few days have observed I get the best ping times from Sydney and worst from Christchurch.

I generally get best speeds from Christchurch

One thing to note is that the Starlink Public IP addresses are in Auckland. So Auckland is <50 Miles from Christchurch via Starlink :) and Christchurch is about 450 Miles from Christchurch

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#2681279 26-Mar-2021 21:46

Key appears to be in the resolve there

customer.syd1.mc.starlinkisp.net

And those ranges are indeed Starlink AU

Far as the world is concerned. You're in australia. So bouncing to them will be faster. While coming back here to NZ servers has to go undersea across the tasman :)

That said the .113 geo resolves to NZ (but is likely an automatic thing)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/jm8iz9/turns_out_starlink_already_has_ip_address_spaces/

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#2681284 26-Mar-2021 22:01

Yank1w1:

Some more ping times from this evening, Location: Port Hills Christchurch. Over the last few days have observed I get the best ping times from Sydney and worst from Christchurch.

Thanks for all the info. I think that confirms that everything goes via the Sydney PoP, from the previous info we had:

103.152.126.0/24 Starlink Sydney PoP 1 user addresses (New Zealand)
2406:2d40::/36 Starlink Sydney PoP 1 user addresses (New Zealand)

I'd prefer a Auckland PoP with good local peering, a lot of the RBI connections I want to replace with Starlink are used for VPNs to NZ fibre endpoints and don't really need the traffic going via Sydney.

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#2681519 27-Mar-2021 17:37

Drove down to the Location of the "Hinds" Starlink Ground Station. The site is actually outside Ashburton next to an ANZCO abattoir. See photos

No Ground Station there yet. Plenty of power and a Fibre Connection available

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#2681521 27-Mar-2021 17:42

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#2682037 28-Mar-2021 16:17

Someone on Reddit visited the Puwera site, and it seems to have dishes installed already! I almost popped down there a couple of days ago too. Perhaps Starlink are focusing on the most southern and northern sites in NZ first?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/mdi0z1/i_found_a_ground_station_for_real_this_time_in_nz/

Tesmanian made an article out it :) https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/star-2

I was checking over my NZ ground station map co-ordinates and tried to manually decode some more accurate positions of ground stations based on the grid references and Linz maps. The existing co-ordinates are not bad, but these should be more accurate. I've put them into a Google Map, together with cropped Linz map images, and site photos from here and Reddit.

https://www.google.co.nz/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=18cwaV5IPIqVSzi26jnDTBaLrwQ61gSgW&usp=sharing

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#2682235 29-Mar-2021 06:57

i got my order in and confirmation email on Feb 10th and was advised orders would be filled on a "first-come, first-served basis"

im in North Otago so right in the butter zone of good coverage ,but still nothing from Starlink..

anyone else in the same boat?

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#2682291 29-Mar-2021 07:54

I placed my order on 23/2/2021 and paid deposit. At that time I received a confirmation of payment and another email about being on a wait list. I then received an email on 12/3/2021 that my order had been accepted. Full payment was collected on 17/3 and kit shipped on the 18 of March. Received my dish on 22/3.

At the time you placed your order did pay a $159 deposit? February 10 seems early as it wasn’t published until around the 20th that orders were open for New Zealand.

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#2682295 29-Mar-2021 08:16

I also placed and paid for my preorder on the 10th of February but haven't heard anything further. There are people around me that placed orders later and have received their dishes.

What is happening is that only a subset of cells in current coverage areas are active and it is a slight lottery if your address happens to be in an active cell. I assume this is because each satellite can only serve a finite number of cells so they need more satellites in final orbits before they can activate 100% of the cells.

I've roughly started to map the pattern of active/inactive cells in Canterbury to get an idea of the pattern:

https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-43.4941391,172.2157883,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1wW6n-jWRMUfmhPuoQdP4-9mKAVg0Jnr7

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#2682304 29-Mar-2021 08:33

Yank1w1:

I placed my order on 23/2/2021 and paid deposit. At that time I received a confirmation of payment and another email about being on a wait list. I then received an email on 12/3/2021 that my order had been accepted. Full payment was collected on 17/3 and kit shipped on the 18 of March. Received my dish on 22/3.

At the time you placed your order did pay a $159 deposit? February 10 seems early as it wasn’t published until around the 20th that orders were open for New Zealand.

start of this thread was 9th Feb, 2nd page in i'd ordered paid and accepted

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#2682339 29-Mar-2021 09:53

I’d been checking the order status daily and was able to place my pre-order early morning in 9th Feb.

I started this thread later that day.

My order is still pending. I’m in the Mackenzie District. From trying various addresses I can see that full orders are available in Temuka, Pleasant Point and Ashburton, but not in Geraldine, Fairlie, Albury or Cave. Addresses in these areas are open for pre-order with service expected late 2021.

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#2682357 29-Mar-2021 10:23

Been monitoring my power usage since installing the Starlink dish. Consistently using about 110W minimum and seeing peaks of 150W.

Power supply is quite hot to the touch.

Has anyone else looked at power supply temp and power usage in NZ. From reading online seems to be a bit of variance in power usage reported

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