Making RBI Wireless more "family friendly": 80GB for $99

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#1129504 15-Sep-2014 22:27

NZtimbo: Oh Noes here's that broken record agai,..

Tim

Well they are all valid points you can get a faster service but you need to pay for it, Not that difficult at all

If I want a house here in Takapuna I will need to pay more it compared to a house in Outram

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#1129542 15-Sep-2014 23:46

I was very interested until I saw that the off peak time is 12am-6am. :(
So that 50GB of data is basically useless unless I want to illegally download content and schedule it to happen during those hours.

Unless someone can point me to a legit Lightbox/Netflix type site that allows you to schedule downloads for later offline viewing?

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#1129567 16-Sep-2014 06:19

johnr:
NZtimbo: Oh Noes here's that broken record agai,..

Tim

Well they are all valid points you can get a faster service but you need to pay for it, Not that difficult at all

I get the feeling that a $10 increase in price is what he feels is warranted.

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#1129569 16-Sep-2014 06:44

johnr:
NZtimbo: Oh Noes here's that broken record agai,..

Tim

Well they are all valid points you can get a faster service but you need to pay for it, Not that difficult at all

If I want a house here in Takapuna I will need to pay more it compared to a house in Outram

But John, Even though my house is worth over 1,000,000 i still ONLY get VDSL. I think this needs to go to the CommComm.

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#1129624 16-Sep-2014 08:46

CYaBro: I was very interested until I saw that the off peak time is 12am-6am. :(
So that 50GB of data is basically useless unless I want to illegally download content and schedule it to happen during those hours.

Unless someone can point me to a legit Lightbox/Netflix type site that allows you to schedule downloads for later offline viewing?

Just after midnight I kicked off some downloads using BBC iPlayer, and there they are waiting for me this morning. I don't know if you're interested in any BBC programmes, but it's one possible option for you.

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#1129628 16-Sep-2014 09:04

grant_k:
CYaBro: I was very interested until I saw that the off peak time is 12am-6am. :(
So that 50GB of data is basically useless unless I want to illegally download content and schedule it to happen during those hours.

Unless someone can point me to a legit Lightbox/Netflix type site that allows you to schedule downloads for later offline viewing?

Just after midnight I kicked off some downloads using BBC iPlayer, and there they are waiting for me this morning. I don't know if you're interested in any BBC programmes, but it's one possible option for you.

If rbi wireless is the best thing out since adsl and its such a robust service then why not make data plans straight 50gb or 80gb none of the off-peak crap . RBI wireless must have congestion/limitation issues of its own I guess.

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#1129634 16-Sep-2014 09:14

How much money did we taxpayers throw at the big telcos to get rural broadband with caps that seem small by today's standards and will seem even smaller a few years down the track?

I bet if we'd cut up the RBI wireless contracts into regions and had smaller players in the game, we could have got more bang for our buck.

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#1129654 16-Sep-2014 09:27

deadlyllama: How much money did we taxpayers throw at the big telcos to get rural broadband with caps that seem small by today's standards and will seem even smaller a few years down the track?

I bet if we'd cut up the RBI wireless contracts into regions and had smaller players in the game, we could have got more bang for our buck.

We have such a 'small player' in our region, but I won't name them. Friends and neighbours who have used their service have been very disappointed in the lack of reliability, and lack of service. Yes, their prices are cheap, but you get what you pay for, and Vodafone's RBI Wireless service has been delivering the goods at our place for 2.5 years now.

It does have outages from time to time, but the service we get from Ultimate is exemplary, the best I've found anywhere. I get quick responses when I need them, and they've increased the data caps several times, as shown by this latest improvement.

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#1129734 16-Sep-2014 10:59

grant_k:
deadlyllama: How much money did we taxpayers throw at the big telcos to get rural broadband with caps that seem small by today's standards and will seem even smaller a few years down the track?

I bet if we'd cut up the RBI wireless contracts into regions and had smaller players in the game, we could have got more bang for our buck.

We have such a 'small player' in our region, but I won't name them. Friends and neighbours who have used their service have been very disappointed in the lack of reliability, and lack of service. Yes, their prices are cheap, but you get what you pay for, and Vodafone's RBI Wireless service has been delivering the goods at our place for 2.5 years now.

It does have outages from time to time, but the service we get from Ultimate is exemplary, the best I've found anywhere. I get quick responses when I need them, and they've increased the data caps several times, as shown by this latest improvement.

WISP-style networks can be done right. Unfortunately they frequently aren't. My previous employer had service through Araneo and it was brilliant. If you gave the RBI funding to people like that you'd get a good, well priced service.

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#1132447 19-Sep-2014 23:16

Axeman480:
grant_k:
CYaBro: I was very interested until I saw that the off peak time is 12am-6am. :(
So that 50GB of data is basically useless unless I want to illegally download content and schedule it to happen during those hours.

Unless someone can point me to a legit Lightbox/Netflix type site that allows you to schedule downloads for later offline viewing?

Just after midnight I kicked off some downloads using BBC iPlayer, and there they are waiting for me this morning. I don't know if you're interested in any BBC programmes, but it's one possible option for you.

If rbi wireless is the best thing out since adsl and its such a robust service then why not make data plans straight 50gb or 80gb none of the off-peak crap . RBI wireless must have congestion/limitation issues of its own I guess.

My understanding is the RBI wireless is provided over the Vodafone cell network. meaning there would be limited capacity. And due to limited radio spectrum available, no easy way to increase capacity. So encouraging everyone to shift their data use to off peak makes sense. Having that free off peak data makes it feasible to do things like cloud backups, Large OS updates ect. Like the iOS 8 release - almost 1GB.

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#1132483 20-Sep-2014 06:34

deadlyllama: How much money did we taxpayers throw at the big telcos to get rural broadband with caps that seem small by today's standards and will seem even smaller a few years down the track?

I bet if we'd cut up the RBI wireless contracts into regions and had smaller players in the game, we could have got more bang for our buck.

Data caps are not static and as more and more 4G on 700 / 1800Mhz goes live in rural areas this will offer more capacity

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#1132512 20-Sep-2014 08:04

johnr:
deadlyllama: How much money did we taxpayers throw at the big telcos to get rural broadband with caps that seem small by today's standards and will seem even smaller a few years down the track?

I bet if we'd cut up the RBI wireless contracts into regions and had smaller players in the game, we could have got more bang for our buck.

Data caps are not static and as more and more 4G on 700 / 1800Mhz goes live in rural areas this will offer more capacity

I'm thinking how you said your 25gb Red signup months could 'easily' be handled and how RBI just got 80gb for $100 and wonder when data might just be seen as 'data' and sold at a set price per GB that was reasonable for any heavier data users, AND lighter ones... Eg $5/GB on ANY contract... Sell it as a per GB amount at whatever wholesale+margin works out to and REALLY make mobile work an a pay-as-you-like way, without silly per mb charges or huge data blocks that arent really used by half the population anyway.

Make it truely 'user pays' at a realistic cost and reap the rewards?

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#1132514 20-Sep-2014 08:17

PhantomNVD:
johnr:
deadlyllama: How much money did we taxpayers throw at the big telcos to get rural broadband with caps that seem small by today's standards and will seem even smaller a few years down the track?

I bet if we'd cut up the RBI wireless contracts into regions and had smaller players in the game, we could have got more bang for our buck.

Data caps are not static and as more and more 4G on 700 / 1800Mhz goes live in rural areas this will offer more capacity

I'm thinking how you said your 25gb Red signup months could 'easily' be handled and how RBI just got 80gb for $100 and wonder when data might just be seen as 'data' and sold at a set price per GB that was reasonable for any heavier data users, AND lighter ones... Eg $5/GB on ANY contract... Sell it as a per GB amount at whatever wholesale+margin works out to and REALLY make mobile work an a pay-as-you-like way, without silly per mb charges or huge data blocks that arent really used by half the population anyway.

Make it truely 'user pays' at a realistic cost and reap the rewards?

RBI is a regulated product

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#1132740 20-Sep-2014 14:48

johnr: Data caps are not static and as more and more 4G on 700 / 1800Mhz goes live in rural areas this will offer more capacity

Our local 3G site (Kawakawa East) is very heavily loaded at times, so I notice quite a drop in download speed. During Off-Peak hours it can reach almost 15Mbps, but at very busy times it can drop as low as 5Mbps, together with greatly increased latency, which is not too good for VoIP. Average speed is around 10Mbps which I'm more than happy with, but it would be good to have a more consistent performance.

I for one would be very keen to switch to 4G / 700MHz as soon as Vodafone opens it up for use on RBI plans.

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#1132741 20-Sep-2014 14:51

Aredwood:My understanding is the RBI wireless is provided over the Vodafone cell network. meaning there would be limited capacity. And due to limited radio spectrum available, no easy way to increase capacity. So encouraging everyone to shift their data use to off peak makes sense. Having that free off peak data makes it feasible to do things like cloud backups, Large OS updates ect. Like the iOS 8 release - almost 1GB.

I'm finding it very useful for downloading BBC iPlayer content. I use Windows Scheduler to start the iPlayer download app at midnight, and when I wake up in the morning, there are some programmes ready for viewing. Easy peasy.

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