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#1891112 27-Oct-2017 07:54

theitman: Thanks all, so from what people have said I need to locate the lounge lan cable and trace it to the black patch box. Once located I need to plug a patch cable front the ont to THAT lounge port on the patch box. Once done I can plug my modem into the lounge lan port and then connect my Asus router to the modem?

I dont think you need said "modem"???

You use the router WAN port and plug that into the ONT (obviously via the patch panel).

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#1891117 27-Oct-2017 08:12

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theitman: Thanks all, so from what people have said I need to locate the lounge lan cable and trace it to the black patch box. Once located I need to plug a patch cable front the ont to THAT lounge port on the patch box. Once done I can plug my modem into the lounge lan port and then connect my Asus router to the modem?

I dont think you need said "modem"???

You use the router WAN port and plug that into the ONT (obviously via the patch panel).

Oh ok, Big Pipe sent me the modem. So the modem gets thrown away and the router gets plugged into the patch panel? So i can just plug, say for example my gaming pc on the other side of the house, straight into the wall lan port in the bedroom once its connected to the patch panel?

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#1891119 27-Oct-2017 08:18

BigPipe send you a router. You use that.

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#1891122 27-Oct-2017 08:22

Totally depends on how much you want to restrict the rest of the house. Install in cabinet = more than 1 port wired active. Put in lounge = 5 unusable outlets and restricted to huddling around a box in lounge

Even less if you need to redirect the phone port of the router to an out too rather than plug directly in

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#1891140 27-Oct-2017 08:59

What i was expecting, not sure if its possible now, was to have the wifi router i bought (asus rt-ac68u) in the lounge and have the tv and ps4 wired to that, and when im wanting to use my gaming pc in another bedroom, connected via a long lan cable (don't use often).

Here is the layout of my place - https://imgur.com/a/FD8Zp

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#1891143 27-Oct-2017 09:03

It's a bit confusing that BigPipe advertises a "free modem" on their website. What BigPipe will have sent you is a router with a built in modem for DSL (and also an ethernet switch and wifi). Because you are on UFB, in your case the "modem" is the ONT; think of it like a fibre modem.

All this means is that you'll plug the ONT into the BigPipe router's ethernet WAN port, and won't actually use its built-in modem. It will act as the router only, with the ONT acting as the "fibre modem".

As above, the ethernet ports are just two sockets at the end of an ethernet cable. Basically, they are just ethernet extension cords in your walls. This means there are potentially lots of different ways to plug your equipment together.

The simplest way is what you've described: ONT - lounge socket - BigPipe router WAN. This will be best if you only use wifi devices and/or plugged in devices in the lounge.

A more advanced setup which Oblivian is suggesting is keeping the BigPipe router in your cabinet. This will allow you to plug the ethernet LAN ports into each of the ethernet sockets and connect other devices in each of the rooms. It would however mean that you will probably need to get another wifi device to put in the lounge (or at another port location), to get good wifi reception.

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#1891148 27-Oct-2017 09:04

^^ yep. They installed 7 outlets in our place. We added an additional 11. When planning always double what you think in any room (its not unusual to have 4 outlets in a main lounge together) and a SoHo wireless unit in a central location which added another 2 ports and better wifi

As for your preference. Thats another 'it depends' state.

On how many wall outlets are at disposal. And looking at it, not many

This is crude, but the ultimate goal and WHY they install it the way they do. Its call star wiring. A central place you distribute both phone and data from

Note if the ph is required, and delivered by the supplied router and not 2nd ONT port how stuck you are at moving the phone. If it is all in 1 cabinet you assign outlets at your leisure by jumpering

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#1891158 27-Oct-2017 09:38

There are 4 lan ports in the lounge, 1 behind the TV and 3 at the bottom.

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#1891160 27-Oct-2017 09:41

theitman:
There are 4 lan ports in the lounge, 1 behind the TV and 3 at the bottom.

That looks quite ugly I wouldn’t want that.

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#1891162 27-Oct-2017 09:44

Hmm, how is it ugly?

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#1891164 27-Oct-2017 09:48

theitman:
What i was expecting, not sure if its possible now, was to have the wifi router i bought (asus rt-ac68u) in the lounge and have the tv and ps4 wired to that, and when im wanting to use my gaming pc in another bedroom, connected via a long lan cable (don't use often).

Here is the layout of my place - https://imgur.com/a/FD8Zp

Think I managed to overlap posts with you...

Yes, this is totally workable, using the more advanced setup above.

Have the BigPipe router in the cabinet. ONT connected to BigPipe WAN. Lounge port connected to BigPipe LAN. ASUS in lounge ethernet to the wall via a LAN port. Other devices connected to other ASUS LAN ports.

If there is a port in the room with the gaming PC, then you can hook it up by BigPipe LAN to port, port to gaming PC.

In that setup, it might make sense to disable the BigPipe router wifi, and just use the wifi on the ASUS.

Hope that makes sense.

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#1891166 27-Oct-2017 09:50

theitman:
Hmm, how is it ugly?

You’ve gone overboard have you ever heard of a switch? Why so many Lan ports! Also have you heard of a power board? Why do you need 2 double plug outlets?

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#1891167 27-Oct-2017 09:51

froob:
theitman:

What i was expecting, not sure if its possible now, was to have the wifi router i bought (asus rt-ac68u) in the lounge and have the tv and ps4 wired to that, and when im wanting to use my gaming pc in another bedroom, connected via a long lan cable (don't use often).

Here is the layout of my place - https://imgur.com/a/FD8Zp

Think I managed to overlap posts with you...

Yes, this is totally workable, using the more advanced setup above.

Have the BigPipe router in the cabinet. ONT connected to BigPipe WAN. Lounge port connected to BigPipe LAN. ASUS in lounge ethernet to the wall via a LAN port. Other devices connected to other ASUS LAN ports.

If there is a port in the room with the gaming PC, then you can hook it up by BigPipe LAN to port, port to gaming PC.

In that setup, it might make sense to disable the BigPipe router wifi, and just use the wifi on the ASUS.

Hope that makes sense.

Thanks froob, that makes sense i think. Would it be possible to pm you if i needed anymore help? cheers

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#1891168 27-Oct-2017 09:54

Starscream122:
theitman:

Hmm, how is it ugly?

You’ve gone overboard have you ever heard of a switch? Why so many Lan ports! Also have you heard of a double adapter? Why do you need 2 double plug outlets?

You're talking like I'm the electrician who did the install. When we met the electrician, we said we want the TV on the wall and a tube down the back to hide the cables. He did the rest.

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#1891174 27-Oct-2017 09:59

Starscream122:
theitman:

Hmm, how is it ugly?

You’ve gone overboard have you ever heard of a switch? Why so many Lan ports! Also have you heard of a power board? Why do you need 2 double plug outlets?

Not overboard at all.

I'm assuming that is where a TV is going to hang - power points up top for that, down below for AV/IT gear.

You can never have too many LAN ports. Although, in this case, they obviously all do not go back to the cabinet, as only six of them are wired up (assuming other rooms are also wired?)

OP - do you need to use your ASUS? Your easiest solution is to patch from the ONT port (usually port 1) to the lounge LAN port, then patch from that to the WAN port on the router Bigpipe sent you, then use that instead of the Asus.

(Unless the Asus acts as a Router with VLAN tagging, then you can use that instead of the Bigpipe router - you do not need both).

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