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#318411 15-Jan-2025 10:05
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I have 5 people in my home using 2Degrees mobile.   

 

We get solid 3g coverage but virtually no 4g coverage - ie we may get and send SMS's when phone flips briefly from 0 to 1 bar.  (Our data is HSPA - so 3.5G).   The issue is definitely not our devices as we have no problem with 4 & 5 g elsewhere, and our phones are high end phones that are less then a year old.   When looking at the coverage maps there is a single white square (=no coverage) over our house.   Its worth pointing out that the map shows much stronger 3g coverage then 4g coverage (but at least fair coverage for most of the wider area within 3km's to the South of us.   My wild guess is this has to do with the hilly terrain and frequencies used.   (If anyone wants to check, the address in question is 91 Bawden Road, Dairy Flat, and the maps I'm looking at are at https://www.2degrees.nz/coverage)

 

I've tried to reach out to 2 degrees multiple times in multiple ways about what is going to happen when 3G shuts down.   Unfortunately I get conflicting answers which vary from "The site will be upgraded before the shutdown" to "use WIFI calling" (which is not an option for my use case) to "You probably should shift to another provider". 

 

I REALLY want to stay with 2Degrees as they have been really good to me in the past, and without going into details, OneNZ have done wrong by me and I won't touch anything related to Spark.  Also the other providers are significantly more expensive unless I want to waste my life playing "games" with NVMO's like Mighty Ape who offer attractive deals to get you hooked, then charge more then the main carriers, and I've had really bad service just trying to sign up to OneNZ with a One NZ operator straight out lying and advising that OneNZ provider the network for all the providers in NZ among other things. 

 

 

 

So my questions -

 

  • I expect it wishful thinking, but does anyone know if turning off 3G will decrease the noise floor such that we will get better 4g connectivity?
  • Does anyone know how I can bring our specific coverage issue to the attention of someone at 2D that can actually look at it/advise whats going to happen?  (The 2D customer facing staff's primary job seems to be to prevent matters being escallated/brought to the attention of the network people)
  • Does anyone know if there is a website/resource which shows planned 2D network upgrades/changes so I can see if changes to our area are "on the cards"?

 


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  #3331733 15-Jan-2025 10:28
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Before we turn off 3G we will make every possible endeavour to increase 4G coverage to fully replace the lost 3G coverage. Part of that will be new sites, part of that will probably be new RCG sites (we're not the only ones turning off 3G - everyone is) and part of that will be turning up the power on the existing L700 sites. L700 can cover more ground than 900MHz, where UMTS runs, but since historically there were a larger fraction of handsets that did not support VoLTE we could not fully utilise it as we might otherwise run into situations where people thought they had coverage right up until they tried to call 111.

 

If you want to bring a specific location to our attention feel free to post it here. Apart from myself there are multiple other senior technical staff that watch these forums.

 

But none of us can personally guarantee that every single subscriber will not suffer some loss of coverage. And neither can One or Spark, for that matter. We have to maximise the coverage for the entire base, rather than prioritising individuals. /Vulcan hand wave, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few etc.





iPad Pro 11" + iPhone 15 Pro Max + 2degrees 4tw!

 

These comments are my own and do not represent the opinions of 2degrees.


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