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  #1292086 27-Apr-2015 08:52
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ronw: Google is now enforcing new requirements on websites that do not comply with their requirements to be viewable on mobile phones as well as computer browsers.
This is going to make a major impact on many websites that will not meet these new requirements. The penalty  for non compliance is that Google will push your site down the rankings in searches.
The alternative for many is a complete re-write often having to duplicate pages one for mobiles and one for desktop.
I am curious if this will affect many people who do their own websites.



This has exploded out of proportion and mainly thanks to SEO companies that profit of doing poor jobs all around. Basically they sent ut press releases claiming companies would disappear from Google SRP (Search Results Pages), companies would lose millions, etc.

Reality is that this  only affect mobile searches, and rightly so.

First if your website does not provide mobile-friendly content and other one does then Google will show the one more likely to be readable on a mobile device. It doesn't change how your website shows up on desktop searches.

Second this changes affects domains on a page level, not website level. 

Obviously there are two things in play here: e-commerce companies that rely on Google searches to have their products in front of an audience (sales oriented) and those who want their content in front of an audience (advertising oriented).

Different companies will have to work in different ways. There's so much SEO spammers can do before they act like spammers (dropping URLs left and right in forums and unrelated blog comments).






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  #1292087 27-Apr-2015 08:57
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DarthKermit: Google says that GeekZone is mobile friendly. For me that doesn't matter, as I prefer to use a laptop to view it. Geekzone is awful on my partner's tablet.


You see, that's one interesting thing. Google allows and suggested sites either adapt to mobile devices OR serve different page when a mobile device is detected. This is what Geekzone does, and Stuff, NZ Herald and others.

Some sites serve the same content and adapt the style to fit different screens showing more or less content (albeit all content still there, just hidden to fit).

If you however decide to use Geekzone desktop on a mobile device it works and gives you full functionality (except for the rich text editor). I personally use the desktop version because we have not implemented any of the moderation features on mobile.






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  #1292088 27-Apr-2015 09:04
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Thanks for that. I should have expanded on what I meant by "awful" above.

Speaking for myself only, I'm not used to using touch screen devices. I'm very accustomed to using sites like GZ from a laptop with a mouse and keyboard.

Call me a Luddite if you like, but I find trying to open a link by touching it with my finger to be clumsy and prone to hitting the wrong link.




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  #1292096 27-Apr-2015 09:46
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DarthKermit:
Call me a Luddite if you like, but I find trying to open a link by touching it with my finger to be clumsy and prone to hitting the wrong link.


that is why one of the tests google list is the minimum size/spacing of the links etc so that you dont have to zoom all the time just to choose one of the other.

But some sites take it to the extreme and give you a list of only 7-8 things in the whole height of the phone, so you have to scroll or worse, press a hamburger button to see more option.




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  #1292109 27-Apr-2015 09:57
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richms:
DarthKermit:
Call me a Luddite if you like, but I find trying to open a link by touching it with my finger to be clumsy and prone to hitting the wrong link.


that is why one of the tests google list is the minimum size/spacing of the links etc so that you dont have to zoom all the time just to choose one of the other.

But some sites take it to the extreme and give you a list of only 7-8 things in the whole height of the phone, so you have to scroll or worse, press a hamburger button to see more option.


I believe running dual sites for mobile and desktop will go the way of the dinosaurs. Responsive from a backend and frontend management perspective is the way the world should be going. All content available, resized to the appropriate device. The hamburger menu is present as the main menu.

Cheers, Matt. 




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  #1292120 27-Apr-2015 10:36
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Behodar:
jarledb: If you are seeing 7% coming from mobile today, its a safe bet you will see less in the future - because you won't be visible for them when searching in Google. Then you can be happy you didn't waste any money on making your website responsive/mobile friendly, while your competitors with mobile friendly sites will be laughing all the way to the bank (getting all the new visitors that don't see your businesses site anymore).

It's a good thing that we don't have any competitors then! :)

In all seriousness, next time we "redo" the site we'll make it scale better to mobile, but who knows when that'll be...

Edit: With that said, it does seem a bit backwards. In the old days we were stuck with WAP sites. Then smartphones came along - I remember Steve Jobs proudly stating that Safari gives you the "full Web" in all its glory. Now Google wants us making WAP sites again.


Be handy if the Use The Full Geekzone Website option was at the top, its a long scroll otherwise. It's very useable on a Plus or any phablet in full website mode

 
 
 
 

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  #1292159 27-Apr-2015 11:29
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I have been making our website mobile friendly over the last week when I have time. It's really easy with media queries and Flexboxes in CSS3/HTML5. It's quite cool you don't need to change markup between mobile and desktop and it auto detects the size and lays out accordingly. I did do maybe 4-5 javascript functions though.

We now have a simple single page for those coming with old browsers which tells the basics of what we do and they should upgrade to a new browser if they want to view the site in full.




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  #1300327 8-May-2015 04:22
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ronw: Except if you web pages designed for normal browser dont pass Googles test it will push your search index down the rankings. This means that anyone searching for something that is on your site will possibly never see your site returned as the results will not include your site in the top rankings.
You can test your websites here https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/
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f it fails you can kiss goodbye to high search rankings

 

Yay, my site passes perfectly! One of the many benefits of using WordPress from the start ;-)




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  #1300383 8-May-2015 08:48
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Except for all the security vulnerabilities...




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  #1300423 8-May-2015 09:13
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Wordpress has had pretty regular patches recently. So long as you have backups you're generally ok.

Many (most?) Wordpress themes are pretty bad for things like blocking JS and CSS. Those take you down the rankings, but most sites have them, so not too big a deal.

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  #1300584 8-May-2015 12:14
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freitasm: Except for all the security vulnerabilities...


Its software, its used a lot (about 20% of the web is powered by WordPress now), so it will be a target. Just like Windows is.

Don't keep Windows updated: You get hacked.
Don't keep WordPress updated: You get hacked.

Same difference.




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