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FazerDude:dafman:sson013: At the NZ prices Playtech/Warehouse is selling for you might as well go for a parallel imported Xperia Z1 which has far superior specs. The N5 is only worth the money at the steep discount price from the Google Play store, it is definitely not worth it at prices that approach flagship models.
The Z1 is bigger and heavier.
The Z1 doesn't run pure android (I have the Xperia Z tablet and as good as the Sony UI is, it is not as clean as pure Kit Kat).
The Z1 is not running Kit Kat (and who knows when Sony will provide it - and keep it up to date over time?).
The Z1 does not have Gorilla Glass 3 (my 'scratch-proof' Xperia Z tablet has a lovely 1 inch scratch already and it hasn't had a hard life).
Ok, the Z1 has a better camera, is waterproof etc, bigger battery, but by no means is it a no-brainer choice over the Nexus. I turned down a Z1 for $699 a couple of weeks ago and have gone with the Nexus. Couldn't be happier.
Why shouldn't the N5 have a flagship price when it's a flagship phone?!
For my money, even at $700 for a non-parallel imported recent release flagship phone - the price is hard to argue with. Certainly it's higher than those in countries with a Play store have to pay, but that's always going to be the case until Google realise that we in NZ are keen early adopters and then decide that they care enough to help us.Look at what the normal retailers (i.e not Google) in the US are charging for the N5 and our deal here looks pretty sharp.
I'm loving my phone - and it's smoking fast. And I'm not even using ART. Boot time <30 s is awesome compared to my old GNex.
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sson013:FazerDude:dafman:sson013: At the NZ prices Playtech/Warehouse is selling for you might as well go for a parallel imported Xperia Z1 which has far superior specs. The N5 is only worth the money at the steep discount price from the Google Play store, it is definitely not worth it at prices that approach flagship models.
The Z1 is bigger and heavier.
The Z1 doesn't run pure android (I have the Xperia Z tablet and as good as the Sony UI is, it is not as clean as pure Kit Kat).
The Z1 is not running Kit Kat (and who knows when Sony will provide it - and keep it up to date over time?).
The Z1 does not have Gorilla Glass 3 (my 'scratch-proof' Xperia Z tablet has a lovely 1 inch scratch already and it hasn't had a hard life).
Ok, the Z1 has a better camera, is waterproof etc, bigger battery, but by no means is it a no-brainer choice over the Nexus. I turned down a Z1 for $699 a couple of weeks ago and have gone with the Nexus. Couldn't be happier.
Why shouldn't the N5 have a flagship price when it's a flagship phone?!
For my money, even at $700 for a non-parallel imported recent release flagship phone - the price is hard to argue with. Certainly it's higher than those in countries with a Play store have to pay, but that's always going to be the case until Google realise that we in NZ are keen early adopters and then decide that they care enough to help us.
I'm loving my phone - and it's smoking fast. And I'm not even using ART. Boot time <30 s is awesome compared to my old GNex.
I might be a little bias because of my negative experience with the N5 (I don't think so though).
When my friend originally offered to get me the 32GB version we were under the assumption it would cost $450 + 20-30$ shipping (from google) + 30-40$ (to nz). Turns out it would cost $100AUD which put the total cost nearing $650NZD+. To me personally this already killed a lot of the "value" in my mind but I knew it'd still be worth 800-900$ on TradeMe if I ever changed my mind.
While you might consider the N5 a flagship level phone, it really isn't in my opinion. Other than the latest Snapdragon processor (which is a given due to time of the product release) and a decent screen, there is nothing else that makes it stand out (other than being the first KitKat/ "google experience" but that's a software feature and will apply to other phones soon and going stock Google should be easy for anyone on this forum) phone. It has substandard speakers, camera, no mem card slot, average construction /design. LG isn't competitive in the smart phone market for good reason. Nexus's has always been positioned more towards the value buyer there is no question that price/performance ratio is unbeatable just like the N4 but price/performance ratio doesn't make a flagship phone.
I already have an HTC One modded with GPE device ID for OTAs so I was actually just going to give my N5 to a family member as I saw no real compelling reason to switch. If someone gave me a Z1(not actually a fan of Z1 design though) or Note 3, yeah I'd switch to the newer phone.
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dafman:sson013:FazerDude:dafman:sson013: At the NZ prices Playtech/Warehouse is selling for you might as well go for a parallel imported Xperia Z1 which has far superior specs. The N5 is only worth the money at the steep discount price from the Google Play store, it is definitely not worth it at prices that approach flagship models.
The Z1 is bigger and heavier.
The Z1 doesn't run pure android (I have the Xperia Z tablet and as good as the Sony UI is, it is not as clean as pure Kit Kat).
The Z1 is not running Kit Kat (and who knows when Sony will provide it - and keep it up to date over time?).
The Z1 does not have Gorilla Glass 3 (my 'scratch-proof' Xperia Z tablet has a lovely 1 inch scratch already and it hasn't had a hard life).
Ok, the Z1 has a better camera, is waterproof etc, bigger battery, but by no means is it a no-brainer choice over the Nexus. I turned down a Z1 for $699 a couple of weeks ago and have gone with the Nexus. Couldn't be happier.
Why shouldn't the N5 have a flagship price when it's a flagship phone?!
For my money, even at $700 for a non-parallel imported recent release flagship phone - the price is hard to argue with. Certainly it's higher than those in countries with a Play store have to pay, but that's always going to be the case until Google realise that we in NZ are keen early adopters and then decide that they care enough to help us.
I'm loving my phone - and it's smoking fast. And I'm not even using ART. Boot time <30 s is awesome compared to my old GNex.
I might be a little bias because of my negative experience with the N5 (I don't think so though).
When my friend originally offered to get me the 32GB version we were under the assumption it would cost $450 + 20-30$ shipping (from google) + 30-40$ (to nz). Turns out it would cost $100AUD which put the total cost nearing $650NZD+. To me personally this already killed a lot of the "value" in my mind but I knew it'd still be worth 800-900$ on TradeMe if I ever changed my mind.
While you might consider the N5 a flagship level phone, it really isn't in my opinion. Other than the latest Snapdragon processor (which is a given due to time of the product release) and a decent screen, there is nothing else that makes it stand out (other than being the first KitKat/ "google experience" but that's a software feature and will apply to other phones soon and going stock Google should be easy for anyone on this forum) phone. It has substandard speakers, camera, no mem card slot, average construction /design. LG isn't competitive in the smart phone market for good reason. Nexus's has always been positioned more towards the value buyer there is no question that price/performance ratio is unbeatable just like the N4 but price/performance ratio doesn't make a flagship phone.
I already have an HTC One modded with GPE device ID for OTAs so I was actually just going to give my N5 to a family member as I saw no real compelling reason to switch. If someone gave me a Z1(not actually a fan of Z1 design though) or Note 3, yeah I'd switch to the newer phone.
Other than the world's fastest processor, the best resolution screen and the very latest in operating system ... there ain't much left (-;
And IMHO you are being a bit tough on the construction/design. It aint the N5 that's sporting a plastic leather back complete with faux stitching!
You can have any flagship phone you like for the price of an N5 - you just might have to wait a year!
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