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Topic # 93592 24-Nov-2011 17:22
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Sky Television and Television New Zealand are launching a new digital pay
television service, to start next year.

Customers will get paid-for content, as well as free-to-air channels, using
a digital decoder. The decoder will also be able to use
Ultra-Fast-Broadband (UFB) in the future.

The new service will be launched in the first half of next year, to take
advantage of the digital switchover when a large number of homes will need
to change to a digital television service.

The new service will deliver pay channels over SKY's digital terrestrial
spectrum. SKY has a 51 per cent shareholding and TVNZ a 49 per cent
shareholding in the joint venture.

The joint venture will announce further details, including content and
pricing, in the near future.

However, the service is likely to offer some of the existing Sky channels
and all freeview channels.

Sky TV's existing service includes a wide range of sports, movies, music,
on-demand and general entertainment content across more than 112 channels.
As of August 2011, Sky had 836,622 subscribers.


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  Reply # 549511 24-Nov-2011 17:26
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Somehow I think TVNZ will be shafted in a couple years. And somehow I think taking down TVNZ6 and TVNZ7 was a bad thing for free to air (Freeview|HD) and the public in general.




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  Reply # 549514 24-Nov-2011 17:42
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freitasm: Somehow I think TVNZ will be shafted in a couple years. And somehow I think taking down TVNZ6 and TVNZ7 was a bad thing for free to air (Freeview|HD) and the public in general.



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  Reply # 549519 24-Nov-2011 17:48
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Whilst this has been 'long rumoured' I am still a bit surprised by this partnership as it is quite a change of behaviour on TVNZ's part. I guess the change of their charter represents a new, more commercial era for TVNZ.

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  Reply # 549531 24-Nov-2011 18:04
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Broadcast tv zzz, wake me up when they start offering un-metered decent quality on demand content over the internet.


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  Reply # 549533 24-Nov-2011 18:06
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freitasm: Somehow I think TVNZ will be shafted in a couple years. And somehow I think taking down TVNZ6 and TVNZ7 was a bad thing for free to air (Freeview|HD) and the public in general.


I think TV is on the rocks full stop.

I'm just waiting to get a YouTube feed into my TV and I'd say it will be all over.






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  Reply # 549538 24-Nov-2011 18:19
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DonGould: I'm just waiting to get a YouTube feed into my TV and I'd say it will be all over.


YouTube? Are you folks serious? How can you compare YouTube crappy content, with TV stuff? I mean, there are TV series that are not on YouTube. There are the whole time to discover things on YouTube. It's a great content sharing thing, but until we have full movies on YouTub, it's just a gimmick.

(And yes, I know Disney is bringing movie rentals to YouTube in the USA).

 




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  Reply # 549539 24-Nov-2011 18:21
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Ragnor: Broadcast tv zzz, wake me up when they start offering un-metered decent quality on demand content over the internet.



I'm with you. The broadcast model is just a collection of bad options.

  1. Watch a certain show at a certain time from a very limited number of shows. You tried to find anything to watch on a Wednesday recently? 
  2. Buy a PVR and record stuff. Yeah, but I'm only going to watch it the once. And again I can't watch a full season of Dexter because I can only record what is broadcast. 
  3. Get Sky and pay around than $2 per day to have the right to watch a pile of channels with nothing on Nat Geo, History, Food, Discovery etc. Then pay even more if I want to watch up to date stuff on SoHo or movies or sport. Oh, yeah and watch it at the certain time of pay for a PVR. But wait you can can also pay extra for pay per view shows! 
  4. I can't just stop the show because I want to watch the dishes or whatever, unless I pay extra for that PVR. 
Broadcast has one thing only going for it: You don't pay for internet bandwidth. Frankly, that isn't enough for me.  

This has the same future prospects as CD. 




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  Reply # 549541 24-Nov-2011 18:24
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The government has just privatised TVNZ7 and handed 51% to Sky. 

Isn't Sky 44% owned by Fox News founder and owner, Rupert Murdoch, through News Corp?  

Thanks, John Key.
Thanks, Steven Joyce.

Thanks for running down the public broadcasting assets we entrusted to you and handing them to your corporate buddies. 

Your cronies win again...and the people of NZ get the shaft.

Now we know why the energy assets are up for sale....and what to expect.  





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  Reply # 549543 24-Nov-2011 18:27
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Ragnor: Broadcast tv zzz, wake me up when they start offering un-metered decent quality on demand content over the internet.


I have been watching TVNZ7 for well over a year now. It's easily the best source of TV news.

Maybe they could have streamed it over the internet via youTube. I have no problems with method of delivery.

But they have killed the content and put it behind a Sky pay wall.  

It's a crime what this government has done to public broadcasting......be it via EM waves or TCP/IP....the delivery isn't relevant. 




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  Reply # 549544 24-Nov-2011 18:30
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I hope it doesn't cost me any more because of this new service.   I already pay a lot for sky and I dont subscribe to anything except the sports channels.

   Even with my sports subscription I note that they have not had any cricket on, i.e. the last aussie tests, the dont have the current india and WI test and they dont have our warm up test thats playing right now. 

   I would be miffed if they start splitting the sports I watch across their two brands so keen sports watchers have to decide if they maintain two subscriptions.
 

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  Reply # 549546 24-Nov-2011 18:30
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Ragnor: Broadcast tv zzz, wake me up when they start offering un-metered decent quality on demand content over the internet.



I'm with you. The broadcast model is just a collection of bad options.

  1. Watch a certain show at a certain time from a very limited number of shows. You tried to find anything to watch on a Wednesday recently? 
  2. Buy a PVR and record stuff. Yeah, but I'm only going to watch it the once. And again I can't watch a full season of Dexter because I can only record what is broadcast. 
  3. Get Sky and pay around than $2 per day to have the right to watch a pile of channels with nothing on Nat Geo, History, Food, Discovery etc. Then pay even more if I want to watch up to date stuff on SoHo or movies or sport. Oh, yeah and watch it at the certain time of pay for a PVR. But wait you can can also pay extra for pay per view shows! 
  4. I can't just stop the show because I want to watch the dishes or whatever, unless I pay extra for that PVR. 
Broadcast has one thing only going for it: You don't pay for internet bandwidth. Frankly, that isn't enough for me.  

This has the same future prospects as CD. 


My issue isn't with the method of delivery. National have just killed TVNZ7 *content* and handed it to Sky and put it behind a pay wall.

They took a quality public asset and wrecked it. 




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  Reply # 549547 24-Nov-2011 18:33
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jasonh: I hope it doesn't cost me any more because of this new service.   I already pay a lot for sky and I dont subscribe to anything except the sports channels.

   Even with my sports subscription I note that they have not had any cricket on, i.e. the last aussie tests, the dont have the current india and WI test and they dont have our warm up test thats playing right now. 

   I would be miffed if they start splitting the sports I watch across their two brands so keen sports watchers have to decide if they maintain two subscriptions.
 


When you buy Sky, 44% of your money goes to Fox News founder and owner, Rupert Murcoch.

That's what we can expect from any news service he is involved in.  

How can we know that National hasn't just converted TVNZ7 into out own local Fox News?
  




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  Reply # 549552 24-Nov-2011 18:37
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tstone: Whilst this has been 'long rumoured' I am still a bit surprised by this partnership as it is quite a change of behaviour on TVNZ's part. I guess the change of their charter represents a new, more commercial era for TVNZ.


Steven Joyce's mission has always been to destroy public broadcasting and hand it to Sky and his old company, Mediaworks.

He is succeeding.

National can't be trusted with public assets. They give them to their mates. It isn't "ideology". That's just an excuse. This is straight out theft on a moral level.

We gave them a public broadcaster - our collective asset - and they have wrecked it so their mates can pick its bones and make us all pay for what we used to own. 

End of story.   

If you vote for National, you're voting for more theft of the public assets for the benefit of their mates and donors.

The evidence is there for all to see in the gutting of public broadcasting we saw today.




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  Reply # 549554 24-Nov-2011 18:44
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Linuxluver: National can't be trusted with public assets.


Given what they've done to the value of Telecom....  can they be trusted with private assets?






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  Reply # 549557 24-Nov-2011 18:49
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Sigh, this is grim.
I'm a big fan of Freeview. We've lost Kidzone. We dont get Heartland. Will likely lose TVNZ7. Who knows what else.
What a crap deal for people who don't fork out for SKY.

Bah.

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