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rayonline

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#152223 20-Sep-2014 11:40

I am wondering which companies provide GST receipts for prepay customers?

I do my own taxes so I expense items. I have requested invoices from 2Degrees, with Vodafone it appears they said they are not oblibged to provide invoices for under $50 top ups.

This is the first time I am doing my own tax, from the IRD videos it appears when I claim them I simply put in the amount every interval like 6 monthly cellphone cost and the amount. So many $20 top ups will be quite a bit for the 6 months. So if I just put this figure in it ... I won't have GST receipts b/c Vodafone said they only provide it for $50 top ups.

Also are the GST receipts when available actually top ups or are they from the actual units consumed etc? I read Vodafone AU and they said that top ups are not bought, they are simply transferred from money to credits so they provide invoices from consumed units.

Other than going to the shop and buying top ups each time instead of doing it online.....

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#1132629 20-Sep-2014 11:43

Under or over $50?

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#1132630 20-Sep-2014 11:44

IIRC, GST is paid on the products e.g your $19 bundle or 20c txt not the topup

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#1132660 20-Sep-2014 12:22

I do a $20 top up monthly. IRD GST requires 6 monthly GST filing for my income. Ok. . If it's the product. Or unit bought then how does one get a tax invoice?

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#1132661 20-Sep-2014 12:27

Supplies of $50 or less

A tax invoice is not needed for supplies of $50 or less (including GST). However, it is best practice to keep records for these purchases, such as invoices, vouchers or receipts. At a minimum, record the date, description, cost and supplier of all purchases.

http://www.ird.govt.nz/gst/work-out/work-out-records/records-tax/tax-info/#less

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#1132662 20-Sep-2014 12:28

rayonline: I do a $20 top up monthly. IRD GST requires 6 monthly GST filing for my income. Ok. . If it's the product. Or unit bought then how does one get a tax invoice?

Spend more thsn $50 in one go and they will give you a gst recepit

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#1132680 20-Sep-2014 12:48

2degrees provide GST receipts for usage not top-ups. You can request them online in Your 2degrees under usage.

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#1132711 20-Sep-2014 14:01

Gst is only payable when goods or services are supplied. This is how we used to do it

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#1132716 20-Sep-2014 14:08

rayonline: I am wondering which companies provide GST receipts for prepay customers?

I do my own taxes so I expense items. I have requested invoices from 2Degrees, with Vodafone it appears they said they are not oblibged to provide invoices for under $50 top ups.
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I am not sure that is correct. You should ask the IRD. I think they maybe getting confused with that you don't 'need' to get GST invoices, if they are under $50, although the the IRD still recommend people keep records. But I believe if you ever request a GST invoice from a company for any amount, they must provide that to you within 28 days. If they don't or refuse to, you can report them I believe. But I think it is a bit of a grey area and you should ask the IRD as they will know for sure. But it would be good customer service anyway for the company to just provide you with what you requested. It would take less to to generate an invoice and email it to you, than it would to argue the case and say that they don't need to provide one, and it would also create badwill. The alternative is to move to a provider that does provide you with what you request.

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#1132763 20-Sep-2014 16:01

mattwnz:
rayonline: I am wondering which companies provide GST receipts for prepay customers?

I do my own taxes so I expense items. I have requested invoices from 2Degrees, with Vodafone it appears they said they are not oblibged to provide invoices for under $50 top ups.
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I am not sure that is correct. You should ask the IRD. I think they maybe getting confused with that you don't 'need' to get GST invoices, if they are under $50, although the the IRD still recommend people keep records. But I believe if you ever request a GST invoice from a company for any amount, they must provide that to you within 28 days. If they don't or refuse to, you can report them I believe. But I think it is a bit of a grey area and you should ask the IRD as they will know for sure. But it would be good customer service anyway for the company to just provide you with what you requested. It would take less to to generate an invoice and email it to you, than it would to argue the case and say that they don't need to provide one, and it would also create badwill. The alternative is to move to a provider that does provide you with what you request.

I believe you are correct. This from the IRD website

Important

If you supply goods and services to another GST-registered person, you must provide a tax invoice within 28 days of the purchaser asking for one. It is an offence if you don't supply one after such a request and you may be charged penalties.

I have had this discussion with Telecom mobile. They will provide a tax invoice but you have to make a phone call and request it each time you make a topup. Wouldn't it be simpler to generate a tax invoice as part of their payment gateway?

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#1133426 22-Sep-2014 09:42

You can generate a GST receipt when you topup on Skinny. They're the only one I know that can be done easily and online. The only other way is to buy prepay vouchers which have the GST amount printed on them..

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