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#1895505 5-Nov-2017 15:22

Spong:

TinMan55:

Today I picked up my two Tivo units from rphenix, having had the new chip and software patch installed on both. Big thanks to Robert for doing this work for me, and to everybody else who has made this all possible. Following the instructions I found via the link to the OzTivo site, I cleared the program info from one of the units, then connected to the new mothership, by setting the dial code to 140. The connection appeared to be made OK, and I received the "Welcome to OzTivo" message, but there is no guide data. I noticed that the step where the information is loaded went very quickly, whereas usually this would take quite a while.

Any suggestions as to what may be wrong here? Seems like setting the connection code to 140 doesn't stick, as when you go back to it, it has reverted to 000. Though as I say above, I received the welcome message, so it must have connected to the correct server.

You do not have to manually change the dial code to 140. If you check system information it should be 140 already, assuming the software has been patched. What's confusing is that if you go to Backdoor and choose dial code, the setting you'll see in front of you is 000 (the old other mothership) If you then choose 000, that's what gets used until rebooting, when it'll go back to 140 "The OzTivo mothership".

Try connecting manually from the network menu, and if all else fails, go to Clear and Reset, and choose to delete Program Data and To Do List (only). That won't delete your existing recordings. Next, try connecting via the network menu again.

Thanks - looks like I may have interfered with things when I went into the back door menu, and probably ended up connecting to the old server, where there was no guide data to download. I'll reboot it to reset the dial code to 140 and try connecting again.

One other thing - can you tell me how to set the 30-sec skip? I tried the procedure on the Weaknees site, but it didn't work for me button only skips 1 second at a time?

tussockcreek

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#1895506 5-Nov-2017 15:26

I have a few tivo's here waiting to chip when they arrive. I have one done, and when i fit it to my tivo (not originally from that tivo) it cannot read the recordings.

This has something to do with the recordings having a code per-tivo. [error #51]

See: http://www.tivopedia.com/error-51-hardware-error.php

So after chip mod and software, can any motherboard read any recording? Or does each tivo board still have to go back in it's original tivo?

I do understand we can clear & delete everything to fix it.

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#1895507 5-Nov-2017 15:28

I see on trademe tivos are going for around $40 - $50.

Not sure if that is a good price, since after shipping and chipping these will be pushing over $100.

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#1895524 5-Nov-2017 16:28

TinMan55:

Spong:

TinMan55:

Today I picked up my two Tivo units from rphenix, having had the new chip and software patch installed on both. Big thanks to Robert for doing this work for me, and to everybody else who has made this all possible. Following the instructions I found via the link to the OzTivo site, I cleared the program info from one of the units, then connected to the new mothership, by setting the dial code to 140. The connection appeared to be made OK, and I received the "Welcome to OzTivo" message, but there is no guide data. I noticed that the step where the information is loaded went very quickly, whereas usually this would take quite a while.

Any suggestions as to what may be wrong here? Seems like setting the connection code to 140 doesn't stick, as when you go back to it, it has reverted to 000. Though as I say above, I received the welcome message, so it must have connected to the correct server.

You do not have to manually change the dial code to 140. If you check system information it should be 140 already, assuming the software has been patched. What's confusing is that if you go to Backdoor and choose dial code, the setting you'll see in front of you is 000 (the old other mothership) If you then choose 000, that's what gets used until rebooting, when it'll go back to 140 "The OzTivo mothership".

Try connecting manually from the network menu, and if all else fails, go to Clear and Reset, and choose to delete Program Data and To Do List (only). That won't delete your existing recordings. Next, try connecting via the network menu again.

Thanks - looks like I may have interfered with things when I went into the back door menu, and probably ended up connecting to the old server, where there was no guide data to download. I'll reboot it to reset the dial code to 140 and try connecting again.

One other thing - can you tell me how to set the 30-sec skip? I tried the procedure on the Weaknees site, but it didn't work for me button only skips 1 second at a time?

The 30 second forward skip is turned on permanently with the new software/patch. You can't turn it on or off using that procedure at Weaknees site according to the community developers. That was only relevant to US versions I believe. Just check your System Information page for the dial code that's currently set, and if it shows 140, you're connecting to the OzTivo server.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

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#1895525 5-Nov-2017 16:30

surfisup1000:

I see on trademe tivos are going for around $40 - $50.

Not sure if that is a good price, since after shipping and chipping these will be pushing over $100.

Can you buy anything that's nicer to use, or as well loved as the Tivo, and with so much community support for under $200?

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

Spong

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#1895528 5-Nov-2017 16:38

tussockcreek:

I have a few tivo's here waiting to chip when they arrive. I have one done, and when i fit it to my tivo (not originally from that tivo) it cannot read the recordings.

This has something to do with the recordings having a code per-tivo. [error #51]

See: http://www.tivopedia.com/error-51-hardware-error.php

So after chip mod and software, can any motherboard read any recording? Or does each tivo board still have to go back in it's original tivo?

I do understand we can clear & delete everything to fix it.

Once you move a HDD from one Tivo to another, you'll lose access to those recordings I'm afraid, as the TSN embedded in the processor disagrees with whats on the HDD, hence decryption is invalid and you're locked out. Same thing will happen with the new software/mod. That's not to say it will always be the case, as further development will likely occur to add new features.

You can however swap or clone another hard disk, but it's necessary to perform a guided setup/clean and delete, which you'll be prompted to do. This wont be possible connected to the old mothership without more errors (to the best of my knowledge), but if you mod your unit, you can do a guided setup connected to the new Oztivo mothership. Your media access key (MAK) will be toast if you had one with a Home Networking Package (HNP).

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

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#1895535 5-Nov-2017 16:48

TinMan55:

Spong:

TinMan55:

Today I picked up my two Tivo units from rphenix, having had the new chip and software patch installed on both. Big thanks to Robert for doing this work for me, and to everybody else who has made this all possible. Following the instructions I found via the link to the OzTivo site, I cleared the program info from one of the units, then connected to the new mothership, by setting the dial code to 140. The connection appeared to be made OK, and I received the "Welcome to OzTivo" message, but there is no guide data. I noticed that the step where the information is loaded went very quickly, whereas usually this would take quite a while.

Any suggestions as to what may be wrong here? Seems like setting the connection code to 140 doesn't stick, as when you go back to it, it has reverted to 000. Though as I say above, I received the welcome message, so it must have connected to the correct server.

You do not have to manually change the dial code to 140. If you check system information it should be 140 already, assuming the software has been patched. What's confusing is that if you go to Backdoor and choose dial code, the setting you'll see in front of you is 000 (the old other mothership) If you then choose 000, that's what gets used until rebooting, when it'll go back to 140 "The OzTivo mothership".

Try connecting manually from the network menu, and if all else fails, go to Clear and Reset, and choose to delete Program Data and To Do List (only). That won't delete your existing recordings. Next, try connecting via the network menu again.

Thanks - looks like I may have interfered with things when I went into the back door menu, and probably ended up connecting to the old server, where there was no guide data to download. I'll reboot it to reset the dial code to 140 and try connecting again.

One other thing - can you tell me how to set the 30-sec skip? I tried the procedure on the Weaknees site, but it didn't work for me button only skips 1 second at a time?

I cleared the Program Data and To Do List, then connected to the new mothership - everything seemed to work fine, though when I look in System Information at "Program Data To:" it says there is none available. If I bring up the guide, it appears that the info is partially there; i.e. some channels have complete program info, while others have just a few lines, and others have nothing at all.

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#1895537 5-Nov-2017 16:58

Many, many thanks to all the fine people who have put “sweat and tears” in to making this new Tivo Series 3 era happen.
My 2 Tivo’s are successfuly updated and connecting to the new Mothership. Home Networking connectivity between the Tivo’s working just as it did. Wife happy, so life happy. You’ve gotta be happy with that!

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#1895538 5-Nov-2017 17:04

TinMan55:

I cleared the Program Data and To Do List, then connected to the new mothership - everything seemed to work fine, though when I look in System Information at "Program Data To:" it says there is none available. If I bring up the guide, it appears that the info is partially there; i.e. some channels have complete program info, while others have just a few lines, and others have nothing at all.

It can take quite a while for the little processor in the Tivo to index the downloaded data, (some say up to an hour on a first connection) and you may need to connect more than once. What area of NZ are you in BTW?

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

Skolink

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#1895539 5-Nov-2017 17:10

rphenix:

Skolink:

Yeah I got none. Very frustrating as I have a pile of TiVos here with sockets fitted, just waiting for the chips. If they aren't here by Monday I'm going to assume they went missing and get some sent via tracked post.

How many do you need to tide you over with the Tivo's you have sitting around?

I have received the package of chips sent on 16 Oct, those sent on 9 Oct still haven't arrived (and I guess probably never will).

So now I can clear out the backlog of TiVos!

TinMan55

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#1895555 5-Nov-2017 17:28

Spong:

TinMan55:

I cleared the Program Data and To Do List, then connected to the new mothership - everything seemed to work fine, though when I look in System Information at "Program Data To:" it says there is none available. If I bring up the guide, it appears that the info is partially there; i.e. some channels have complete program info, while others have just a few lines, and others have nothing at all.

It can take quite a while for the little processor in the Tivo to index the downloaded data, (some say up to an hour on a first connection) and you may need to connect more than once. What area of NZ are you in BTW?

OK thanks - I guess I'll just leave it to do its stuff and check it later. I am in Epsom, Auckland.

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#1895566 5-Nov-2017 18:13

I know the proms are in short supply, and are rare as hens teeth here in NZ.

I have only a short list of interested friends, but it's growing daily, I would like 7 of them now,and I expect that to grow further.

Happy to order from further afield than nz if that's the sensible approach. Where is the mother lode of them?

Don't have a prom programmer, and I intend to destroy proms on removal anyway.

kevwest

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#1895571 5-Nov-2017 18:22

I have a bit of an update for those thinking of updating your TiVo.

I have 4 TiVo’s that were previously operating on my HNP which I stopped using recently while trialling an alternative Freeview Recorder which turned out to be not as good as initially thought.

After reading this thread, I was inspired to resurrect my old TiVo’s and have learnt a few surprising things which I thought I would share.

I started yesterday (4/11/15) and as at this afternoon, I have been able to update all of my TiVo’s to the latest software patch, which is all good.

I have also been able to perform a “Clear & Delete” function and it goes through the complete process and is fully functional on each of the TiVo’s that this has been done.

I have managed to set up my brand new (never used or started) TiVo’s and they have setup and they function fully.

Interestingly, only some of the TiVo’s have retained their original personalised name and the others remain un-named. (just the standard TiVo number for id)

With one of these TiVo’s that lost its name, I performed a Clear & Delete and surprisingly, the original name re-appeared, so I will persevere and Clear & Delete a couple of the other Tivo’s (again) and see if the personalised name reappears.

Plus, all of the TiVo’s have retained the “MAK” to date, even after Clear & Delete.

Good stuff.

Spong

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#1895577 5-Nov-2017 18:34

TonyS071: I know the proms are in short supply, and are rare as hens teeth.

I have only a short list of interested friends, but it's growing daily, I would like 7 of them now,and I expect that to grow further.

Happy to order from further afield than nz if that's the sensible approach. Where is the mother lode of them?

Don't have a prom programmer, and I intend to destroy proms on removal anyway.

Don't panic just yet! We're on to it. No need to go looking overseas for PROMS as they need to be programmed with the custom firmware. My next batch of 50x from Darren is due in about 2x weeks, but I have a backup plan, which if it all goes to plan (and no reason to think otherwise) will mean that I'll have another 80x chips by next weekend and I'll be working on additional stock also. The official EPG is there until approx 15th November, so no need to panic just yet. The community are working together on this.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

TonyS071

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#1895589 5-Nov-2017 19:08

Not panicking - just trying to make sure I am part of the solution, not just the problem.

I am in no hurry, it's only TV after all, and as you say, we have a bit of EPG stored up now anyway.

I think the fact that the wider community can bend technology to our will is the clear winner here, and there is a message for us who are listening in that.
The fact that my partner can keep using her preferred recording device is somewhere near the top, but beating the 'system'? [pardon my French mode on] F yeah.

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