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Topic # 224223 8-Nov-2017 13:24
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So I am going to get  the chip in my tivo updated. And I am thinking of swapping out the current HDD for a new iTB.

 

 

 

Could someone post me link on instructions. Seems I need a Sata converter as well as the HDD. Not sure how to get the info / OS off the current tivo onto the new HDD.

 

 

 

Thanks


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  Reply # 1897575 8-Nov-2017 14:30
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I plan to try this in the next day or two:

 

http://www.angusj.com/tivo/

 

 

 

Note: right at the end he mentions winMFS - which he suggests is easier (I may try the winMFS method). winMFS is also mentioned here to backup:

 

http://hd.oztivo.net/twiki/bin/view/S3FAQ/S3HowToKeepUsingTiVo

 

 

 

Luke




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  Reply # 1897642 8-Nov-2017 16:14
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Thanks for that. Given it looks like I need to pull out the HDD to update to the new tivo version I may as well give this a shot.

 

 

 

(stepping out of my comfort zone here as only semi similar thing I have done is try to flash an android phone)


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1897903 8-Nov-2017 22:51
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WinMFS is very easy. You just need to remember to run it 'as administrator' in Windows, and to use version 9.3g




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  Reply # 1898514 9-Nov-2017 20:16
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Help - I'm stuck at step one!!.

 

So I have the old TiVo hard drive out and connected to the unitek USB3.0 tosat6g converter and pluged the power cables etc in.

 

 

 

I get a solid blue light on the converter - not good.

 

 

 

When I go to My Computer I cant see the HDD showing up anywhere.

 

 

 

But if I go to Computer management/storage/disk management it is reading the HDD,. It tells me its WD32000avs - which is the drive out of the Tivo. So some how I am at least reading this much of the drive but nothing else.'

 

 

 

So when I run winMFS its not reading the drive either.

 

 

 

Any clues?

 

 

 

EDIT: oops read instructions above to run winMFS as Administrator. Did this and  winMFS at least seems to be seeing the drive. But what now? if I go to backup/tivofile (truncated) and try to select a back up file there is none to choose form


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  Reply # 1898517 9-Nov-2017 20:29
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minimoke:

 

Help - I'm stuck at step one!!.

 

So I have the old TiVo hard drive out and connected to the unitek USB3.0 tosat6g converter and pluged the power cables etc in.

 

 

 

I get a solid blue light on the converter - not good.

 

 

 

When I go to My Computer I cant see the HDD showing up anywhere.

 

 

 

But if I go to Computer management/storage/disk management it is reading the HDD,. It tells me its WD32000avs - which is the drive out of the Tivo. So some how I am at least reading this much of the drive but nothing else.'

 

 

 

So when I run winMFS its not reading the drive either.

 

 

 

Any clues?

 

 

 

EDIT: oops read instructions above to run winMFS as Administrator. Did this and  winMFS at least seems to be seeing the drive. But what now? if I go to backup/tivofile (truncated) and try to select a back up file there is none to choose form

 

 

 

 

You have to navigate to where you'd like to save the backup file and give it a name. This truncated backup won't be a complete backup of your entire 320Gb drive. Normally it's around 700MB so excludes most of your recordings, (but will include your MAK if you have the HNP). You can then restore this backup to your new drive, then agree to expand to fill your new drives space at the end. Note: winmfs can only expand space by about 1.2TB from memory so not suitable if your destination drive is 2TB. Better to use JMFS if you want to migrate to a 2TB drive, and you can clone the complete 320GB drive and expand if you have 2x SATA ports available. 




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  Reply # 1898523 9-Nov-2017 20:52
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When I go to select backupfile / select, when I try to browse to a drive  or file there is no TiVo drive. Does it have to do with the Drive Letter being "unmouted"


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  Reply # 1898527 9-Nov-2017 21:18
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minimoke:

 

When I go to select backupfile / select, when I try to browse to a drive  or file there is no TiVo drive. Does it have to do with the Drive Letter being "unmouted"

 

 

Remember, you are wanting to SAVE that image of the Tivo drive. You have to save it on one of your PC's hard disks as a winmfs image file. You wouldn't nor should you be wanting to save it back to the drive you're trying to backup. Nothing to do with unmounted drives etc.  Once you've made the backup, attach your new drive and choose restore Tivo drive and navigate to that backup you've just made. Remember aso, before you can backup or restore,m you need to select the drive you're going to be working with as "Drive A" under the Select Drive menu.


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  Reply # 1898529 9-Nov-2017 21:23
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minimoke:

 

When I go to select backupfile / select, when I try to browse to a drive  or file there is no TiVo drive. Does it have to do with the Drive Letter being "unmouted"

 

 

No the drive shouldnt be mounted in windows (windows doesn't understand the partition structure on the drive so it shows as uninitialized).  When you run the program after accepting the license do you see a drive when you choose file, select drive? If so make it drive A then choose select.  

 

After that choose File->Backup -> TiVo Drive (Truncated) save it to somewhere on your regular computer hard drive (the image will be around 500megs).

 

 


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  Reply # 1898533 9-Nov-2017 21:29
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anyone got a link that works for winmfs?

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1898534 9-Nov-2017 21:33
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gregmcc:

 

anyone got a link that works for winmfs?

 

 

PM me for a link to it in my Dropbox. 




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  Reply # 1898539 9-Nov-2017 21:38
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rphenix:

 

minimoke:

 

When I go to select backupfile / select, when I try to browse to a drive  or file there is no TiVo drive. Does it have to do with the Drive Letter being "unmouted"

 

 

No the drive shouldnt be mounted in windows (windows doesn't understand the partition structure on the drive so it shows as uninitialized).  When you run the program after accepting the license do you see a drive when you choose file, select drive? If so make it drive A then choose select.  

 

After that choose File->Backup -> TiVo Drive (Truncated) save it to somewhere on your regular computer hard drive (the image will be around 500megs).

 

 

 

After I run the programme and accept the licence I can file/select drive/ and in Drive a it has "1" and in the drive information I shows details of the drive eg its a wd32 320 gb etc.

 

 

 

Then I go to file / backup / TiVo drive truncated / step 1/ select back up file select ....there is nothing there to select.

 

 

 

If I just hit select it looks like I get a chance to create a file name eg "backup" and then I hit "start" it returns a start time and an error message "not a TiVo drive backup failed"

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1898563 9-Nov-2017 22:35
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I was able to get my drive to backup using the process you describe, but when I went to restore I got an error. So I cloned the drive with this process:

 

https://www.engadget.com/2008/04/17/how-to-upgrade-your-tivo-hd-with-winmfs/

 

 

 

Haven't actually tested the drive yet.

 

Luke


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  Reply # 1898571 9-Nov-2017 23:14
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If the error was something about not being able to record and error #51 or something similar - you could ignore it when it mentions turning off  - go into Tivo settings and there is an option to reset everything works after that.

 

 


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  Reply # 1898572 9-Nov-2017 23:17
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minimoke:

 

Then I go to file / backup / TiVo drive truncated / step 1/ select back up file select ....there is nothing there to select.

 

If I just hit select it looks like I get a chance to create a file name eg "backup" and then I hit "start" it returns a start time and an error message "not a TiVo drive backup failed"

 

 

At this step instead of just going start you first need to give it a name eg. you could have chosen somewhere on your desktop and given it a filename "tivo-truncated-backup".  What it does then is store the data minus recordings to the file you named and its roughly 500megs in size.  Once this is done you change to your new drive restart the winmfs application choose the new drive, and do a truncated restore selecting that file you previously created for the source.




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  Reply # 1898588 10-Nov-2017 06:35
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rphenix:

 

minimoke:

 

Then I go to file / backup / TiVo drive truncated / step 1/ select back up file select ....there is nothing there to select.

 

If I just hit select it looks like I get a chance to create a file name eg "backup" and then I hit "start" it returns a start time and an error message "not a TiVo drive backup failed"

 

 

At this step instead of just going start you first need to give it a name eg. you could have chosen somewhere on your desktop and given it a filename "tivo-truncated-backup".  What it does then is store the data minus recordings to the file you named and its roughly 500megs in size.  Once this is done you change to your new drive restart the winmfs application choose the new drive, and do a truncated restore selecting that file you previously created for the source.

 

 

Still not working.

 

Then I go to file / backup / TiVo drive truncated / step 1/ select back up file select ....there is nothing there to select.

 

When the file save location window comes up I pasted "tivo-truncated-backup" into the file name. ( I want it to save into a TiVo folder in by C drive which I have set up) then I hit "start" it returns a start time and an error message "not a TiVo drive backup failed"


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