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Topic # 147302 15-Jun-2014 20:00
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Hi

I've just created my website https://seek.estate

It was basically founded on the belief that Ordinary people should be able to List and Sell their Homes for Free.  And delete those listings once the home is sold, so that "data" isn't freely available on the net for anyone to look at.

The motivation behind the site came when I read this
Realestate.com.au wont take down my house ad/listing
"Ok so I bought my place nearly 2 years ago, but the PDF listing is still up on realestate.com.au. This is very annoying, because anyone who googles my address will be able to see what the inside of my place looks like. This should be private – and not on display for the world to see. I have e-mailed them requesting that they remove it, but as expected, I received no reply and it's still up there. 

Currently when you try and list your home for sale you normally go through an Agent.  The Agent pays major portals such as realestate.com.au, realestate.co.nz, trademe.co.nz depending on their level activity either a fixed monthly fee of $2500 or $200+GST per listing.  Once the listing is up on those sites it stays there forever, because the major real estate portals then onsell all that data to third parties such as qv.co.nz.  I don't believe that this approach is right which is why I tried to create something different.

I've been working on this site part time for about 4 months, and the stack i'm using is a mix of Laravel,MariaDB,apache,JSON,XML feeds all hosted on Cloud Servers in Singapore.

My problem right now is because it is new and doesn't have a lot of content, despite my best SEO effots, it doesn't appear in Google SERPs.  I barely receive any hits to the website because of this.  Google has such a massive market share in NZ over 94% of search queries, I'm finding it impossible to get the word out about my site.

http://qz.com/220909/does-the-advertising-business-that-built-google-actually-work/

This story perfectly explains what is happening. Established companies like eBay buy up to "100 million or more keywords" to shut out new entrants. And because I'm on a new .estate tLD I don't have enough domain authoirty or backlinks to rank well on the organic search pages.   '

I wrote a web scrapper to scrap listings from trademe.co.nz and realestate.co.nz to add content to my website and to try to catch some Long Tail Keywords to my site, but this is not working either.  I do get hits, after one month alexa is ranking me at 2.9 million and I receive about 1500 pageviews a day in Australia but none in NZ.  www.alexa.com/siteinfo/seek.estate

I'm thinking of trying to customize my content in my website for countries which Google doesn't have a search monopoly, so I can get listed in some other search engines and directories.  But any and all feedback would be greatly and immensely appreciated.  Thank you for your time.

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  Reply # 1066171 15-Jun-2014 20:05
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I haven't looked much around the site, but unless you have plans to expand internationally, .estate is not as good as a .co.nz for local marketplaces.

Also "I wrote a web scrapper to scrap listings from trademe.co.nz and realestate.co.nz to add content to my website and to try to catch some Long Tail Keywords to my site" sounds like an invite for Trade Me and realestate.co.nz to come with lawyers on you, since this content is their property and you shouldn't be copying it.

And I see your listings are actually iframes to these other sites - I am pretty sure you will get called by lawyers any time now...






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  Reply # 1066177 15-Jun-2014 20:16
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Don't like this at all, has dodgy written all over it.




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  Reply # 1066187 15-Jun-2014 20:35
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Screen shots scraped straight from TradeMe? As mauricio said, you'd better lawyer up.

Oh, and it's rather ironic that seek.estate's terms of use state:
"USE. You agree not to use or provide software (except for general purpose web browsers and email clients, or software expressly licensed by us) or services that interact or interoperate with SK, e.g. for downloading, uploading, posting, flagging, emailing, search, or mobile use. Robots, spiders, scripts, scrapers, crawlers, etc. are prohibited, as are misleading, unsolicited, unlawful, and/or spam postings/email. You agree not to collect users personal and/or contact information ("PI")."

When you yourself are using a scraper on TradeMe's site for the exact same purpose.

TradeMe's ToU state:
"You may not use a robot, spider, scraper or other unauthorised automated means to access the Website or information featured on it for any purpose."




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