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#311988 4-Mar-2024 22:08
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When we did the Casa de Cowboy rebuild we replaced the Marley Typhoon guttering, which was totally incapable of handling the flow off the roof and would overflow, with commercial 100mm downpipes and guttering. However since that roof gets a lot of leaves, we retained the leaf diverters since you can't get them in 100mm but only 80mm. Problem is that now with brief bursts of heavy rain this happens:

 

 

 

 

The downpipe is completely clear, as far as I can tell what's happening is that with enough water coming down the downpipe at once it stalls at the 80mm attached to the leaf diverter. 99% of the time it works fine, it's only during brief bursts of heavy rain, for example what we had briefly today. It's a nasty rock-and-a-hard-place because without the leaf diverter there's a real risk the drains will block, which will be a lot worse than one gutter overflowing.

 

 

This is the whole setup:

 

 

 

 

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Firstly, is it likely that that's the actual problem, and then what would fix it? I was thinking some sort of inflow restriction at the top so at least some of the water flows on to the second downpipe further down which can take the extra load, maybe a 90 -> 80 reducer to act as a chokepoint where it enters the downpipe from the guttering? Or something as simple as a piece of timber across the throat of the outlet, maybe a 45x45 H4? An additional concern there is that the wrong sort/shape of thing may impede the flow too much.

 

 

Anticipating the inevitable, gumming up the join where the water is coming out with silicone or similar will make it impossible to remove the pipes for maintenance, possibly won't work if the silicone won't hold up to water pressure, and will just move the problem to the next-weakest join, so that's mostly a non-solution.

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  #3214773 5-Apr-2024 18:40
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Finally sorted it, I ran a borescope camera up it and saw that, despite trying to clean it out with a hose, there were still more leaves up there, so I went through many iterations of { leaf hook, hose, camera }, which yielded this:

 

 

 

 

Finally I poured a 5L bucket of water down it, of which 90% went down the pipe and 10% went down me, and ran the camera up it again, which showed an almost-clear pipe except for this:

 

 

 

 

That's most probably a corner protector from one of the solar panels which got dropped on the roof, missed because it was transparent, and at some point washed down into the downpipe and got stuck there, catching leaves that were washed past it until enough built up to block the downpipe.

 

 

Now I just need a test load of heavy rain to see whether the problem is solved.

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