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# 254429 11-Aug-2019 20:52
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So I built a new garage door after our au pair "nudged" the last one with my car.  As it is an unusual shape and size with no roof clearance (and limited budget) I built one out of timber.  Works fine, however I can't work out a way of installing a lock that could allow it to be opened from both inside and out,  Currently can lock from inside.

 

The cladding is 25 mm tongue and groove cladding followed by 70 by 45 and the 9 mm ply on the inside.  So looking at around 80 mm of thickness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any ideas?


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  # 2294432 11-Aug-2019 21:30
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Padbolt top and bottom to one door, and a standard mortice lock to the other door

 

 


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  # 2294451 11-Aug-2019 21:56
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  # 2294482 12-Aug-2019 05:16
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superoman:

Padbolt top and bottom to one door, and a standard mortice lock to the other door


 



How will that allow them to be opened from both inside and out as the OP wants?

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  # 2294487 12-Aug-2019 06:28
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eracode:
superoman:

Padbolt top and bottom to one door, and a standard mortice lock to the other door


 



How will that allow them to be opened from both inside and out as the OP wants?


Mortice can be unlocked from either side of the door.

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  # 2294506 12-Aug-2019 07:36
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Ge0rge:
eracode:
superoman:

Padbolt top and bottom to one door, and a standard mortice lock to the other door


 



How will that allow them to be opened from both inside and out as the OP wants?


Mortice can be unlocked from either side of the door.


True - yes great answer.

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  # 2300053 15-Aug-2019 21:31
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Challenge with installing a mortice lock could be the length of the latch/bolt - hopefully enough to give you meaningful cover from door to door.  Also think about more than one mortice lock, even if they are keyed alike, to deter someone trying to jimmy it open = there's a lot of leverage and flex from a couple of meter wide doors.

 

I'm guessing you don't want to deconstruct the doors....  you could look at installing a uPVC door type multi point lock - where you have a lock in the middle, then shoot bolts top and bottom (and sometimes other hook latches one either side of the main 'lock'.  Will be way more involved, but also way more secure. more secure than the front door!

 

Would you look at reinforcing the centre of the door with a strip of galv. steel on either side to again offer deterence.  

 

 

 

 


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  # 2300359 16-Aug-2019 11:36
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Old school - 40mm hole through both doors, chain / cable with a padlock that's less than 40mm in diameter.

 

 

 

Or Put a bolt type lock with pad lock on the outside of the door.

 

Just above it cut a trap door / slider that opens and locks from the inside. Hand goes through opened hole and opens lock from the inside - and of course lock accessible from outside.

 

 

 

Inside - put a sliding latch (e.g. piece of wood/ steel  that slides across into holders. ) Make a slider bolt from inside to outside so outside can slide it (think of a rifle bolt where the bolt action lever goes through the door - but bigger) . Lock it from the inside.

 

Put trap door as above above inside lock. Unlock and slide. You can use a larger lock this way and the beam across the door will be about the strongest lock you can ever have - especially if you use steel and not wood.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  # 2300392 16-Aug-2019 12:32
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Rabbitcat:

I'm guessing you don't want to deconstruct the doors....  you could look at installing a uPVC door type multi point lock - where you have a lock in the middle, then shoot bolts top and bottom (and sometimes other hook latches one either side of the main 'lock'



Manual roller and tilt doors had a locking handle in the middle that could pull spring loaded bolts at the sides. That idea could be rotated to do a bolt top and bottom. It wouldn't stop someone opening it from the inside unless the wires and bolts were concealed.


I have similar doors with internal access. I can lock the door well enough from the outside by setting a long lower bolt ready to drop and closing the door firmly. Bolt drops.

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  # 2300434 16-Aug-2019 14:08
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One of these, you can get them with key operation on outside and either key or knob operation on the inside.

 

https://www.yalelock.com.au/en/yale/yale-au/yale-products/door-locks/nightlatches-and-deadlocks/yale-single-cylinder-deadlock/

 

 

 

 




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  # 2300445 16-Aug-2019 14:26
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One of these, you can get them with key operation on outside and either key or knob operation on the inside.

 

https://www.yalelock.com.au/en/yale/yale-au/yale-products/door-locks/nightlatches-and-deadlocks/yale-single-cylinder-deadlock/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Suits hinged doors 35-55mm thick

 

 

This door is like 100mm thick


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  # 2300449 16-Aug-2019 14:44
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decibel:

 

One of these, you can get them with key operation on outside and either key or knob operation on the inside.

 

https://www.yalelock.com.au/en/yale/yale-au/yale-products/door-locks/nightlatches-and-deadlocks/yale-single-cylinder-deadlock/

 

 

  • Suits hinged doors 35-55mm thick

This door is like 100mm thick

 

 

would recessing this be an option?


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  # 2300467 16-Aug-2019 15:06
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decibel:

 

One of these, you can get them with key operation on outside and either key or knob operation on the inside.

 

 

 

https://www.yalelock.com.au/en/yale/yale-au/yale-products/door-locks/nightlatches-and-deadlocks/yale-single-cylinder-deadlock/

 



Looks like that lock is for inward-opening doors only - these are outward.

 

https://www.yalelock.com.au/Local/AU/Technical%20Downloads/Yale/Rimlocks/Single%20and%20Double%20Deadlock/Deadlock%20Installation%20Instructions.pdf

 

 


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  # 2300490 16-Aug-2019 15:56
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How about one of these. They are in Palmerston Nth and ship overnight.

 

1 or 3 point Dead Bolt Latches Click on middle image to enlarge

 

The top and bottom rods are 600mm and the centre spindle is 62mm don't know if that is long enough





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  # 2306140 26-Aug-2019 13:03
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Magnetic security lock with pincode/rfid entry  :)  I like to make things technical...


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  # 2307391 28-Aug-2019 16:13
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What about utilizing a roller garage door locking mechanism and mounting it vertically on each door?

 

You would need to put a small hole in the floor to lock it, but if it was me, that would be what i would do.  Easily opened from outside and inside.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=garage+roller+door+lock&safe=strict&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix8dvp2KTkAhUFcCsKHVcDBZ0Q_AUIESgB&biw=1922&bih=1075#imgrc=ywLxzjTO9rX5tM:


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