New House only has F Cable for aerial. No signal when connecting to my TV even with adaptor

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#3152420 26-Oct-2023 16:17

NZNewbie222:

Thanks Huckster. The Sky dish and the standard aerial are both on the roof, and I am not brave enough to climb up and fiddle with the wires myself. So that means I would have to pay for someone to do it, so I might as well just use a stick for freeview (given call out rates of aerial people!).

Many years ago I got up on my roof to re-point my aerial after some strong winds.

A few years later, I needed to go on the roof for something else and I just couldn't do it! I still can't figure out what changed, so I TOTALLY understand if you aren't brave enough.

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#3152442 26-Oct-2023 17:23

i would just a get a freeveiw satellite set top box (assuming tv doesn't have it built in).

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#3152444 26-Oct-2023 17:28

tweake:

i would just a get a freeveiw satellite set top box (assuming tv doesn't have it built in).

Don't do this. The picture quality is woeful compared to terrestrial, assuming you can get it.

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#3152452 26-Oct-2023 18:30

IMO, if you just want to watch TV and not fiddle with streaming services, it is worth you getting someone in.

Of course, if you don't watch much linear TV, and are happy flicking between streaming services, then a stick will work fine for you (or just use whatever Apps your TV has).

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#3152454 26-Oct-2023 18:41

Agree with the above, do it once do it right

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#3152458 26-Oct-2023 18:56

I have a Dish smartvu11 and a Dish Smartvu 7070 box. Both will give you freeview streaming TV plus apps like TVNZ+ and Three now and much more especially if you have an older TV so I think it’s worth it to try this quick option because fixing the aerial won’t give you the use of Apps. There’s a new Dish TV dongle for around $99. You can save a bit if you find them on sale at PB Tech or Noel Leeming.

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#3152472 26-Oct-2023 21:12

RunningMan: Don't do this. The picture quality is woeful compared to terrestrial, assuming you can get it.

It would be worth taking the tv to the room with the uhf aerial feed and trying it just so you know how well the aerial works.

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#3152483 26-Oct-2023 22:36

As a long term renter i've always simply used what the house had fitted.

Most places that've had Sky will give you DVB-S (Satellite) Freeview.

Most TV's however don't do DVB-S by default, and will use DVB-T (Terrestrial).

Sat Dishes generally use F Connectors. Regular VHF or UHF antennas generally use the conventional TV antenna connection.

There's always exceptions.

If you have a Sky dish then a DVB-S receiver will be the simple fix.

Otherwise you'd have to trace the cable from the UHF antenna and see where it goes... if it is indeed going into your TV (and I think it's not, because you've mixed up Sky Dish feed with UHF antenna feed) then a retune should get you working.

Even in rentals, i've been known to completely re-run the Coax to remediate some shocking TV installations.

However most recently with my DVB-S receiver finally playing up, we've defaulted to streaming TV (including live TV via the Freeview app on the Smart TV) so may have finally evolved to the point where broadcast itself isn't required.

Does depend on you having fast Internet of course.

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#3152491 27-Oct-2023 06:35

Here’s a thought…others can chime in…

can you not just get into the roof space, goto where you know the UHF coax cable comes in and chop it, fit a splitter then add a new length to where you know the satellite coax cable is and then splice onto that with another splitter / combiner?

assuming you won’t use the satellite dish?
( pretty sure you can still use it, just depends on the type of splitter / combiner you use).

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#3152493 27-Oct-2023 06:58

I may be wrong but I don't think there is an attic style roof space based on the aerial shot. The lead from that seems to drop down the exterior of the wall. Depending on where the sky dish is it is probable that something could be done with the coax. The aerial and LNB are likely to both have F connectors.

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#3152513 27-Oct-2023 07:52

Easy option , Go to Jaycar and grab an indoor antenna, take it back if it doesnt work.

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#3152521 27-Oct-2023 08:38

Thanks all for the suggestions. Alas, I am not brave enough to go up to the roof to wrangle with the wires myself. The wires run down from the dish/aerials externally down the side of the house into the lounge (F cable for satellite) and bedroom (coaxial for aerial). I actually normally watch everything on my laptop rather than the TV but since I have the TV sitting in the corner of the lounge (and too big for the bedroom to utilise the coaxial there), I thought it would be good to have it available if I ever needed it. It is an old dumb tv (2007) with built in freeview but no net capabilities.

So I think the Dish TV SmartVU11 stick is going to be my best bet, as it lets me watch freeview channels, is cheaper than paying for an aerial contractor to sort out the wiring, cheaper than getting Sky (to use the existing satellite) and it also allows me to cast other media onto the TV (which, at the moment, is basically a giant useless brick in the lounge). Obviously watching tv using a proper aerial is easier in everyday life, but I think getting a contractor in to run proper coaxial wiring down to the lounge will cost me over $150 and it still won't let me use the TV for other media.

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#3152531 27-Oct-2023 09:05

Apsattv:

Easy option , Go to Jaycar and grab an indoor antenna, take it back if it doesnt work.

If the indoor antenna works the existing UHF one is seriously overspecified.

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#3152543 27-Oct-2023 09:40

NZNewbie222:

Thanks all for the suggestions. Alas, I am not brave enough to go up to the roof to wrangle with the wires myself. The wires run down from the dish/aerials externally down the side of the house into the lounge (F cable for satellite) and bedroom (coaxial for aerial). I actually normally watch everything on my laptop rather than the TV but since I have the TV sitting in the corner of the lounge (and too big for the bedroom to utilise the coaxial there), I thought it would be good to have it available if I ever needed it. It is an old dumb tv (2007) with built in freeview but no net capabilities.

So I think the Dish TV SmartVU11 stick is going to be my best bet, as it lets me watch freeview channels, is cheaper than paying for an aerial contractor to sort out the wiring, cheaper than getting Sky (to use the existing satellite) and it also allows me to cast other media onto the TV (which, at the moment, is basically a giant useless brick in the lounge). Obviously watching tv using a proper aerial is easier in everyday life, but I think getting a contractor in to run proper coaxial wiring down to the lounge will cost me over $150 and it still won't let me use the TV for other media.

If you only want to watch freeview channels ( and the dish works - previous tenant says he used it for sky)

then a $75 Freeview box will do pretty much everything you want, - granted its SD, but the Freeview streams aren't great quality either

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/p/dishtv-sat1-freeview-satellite-receiver/N216686.html

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#3152575 27-Oct-2023 11:13

it would be easy enough to rerun a coax cable from the UHF antenna directly to your TV. Cost a few dollars for the cable and some mahi up a ladder/under the house?. Maybe leave in the old coax cable to the bedroom upstairs just in case you need to reuse it sometime in the future. The HD image via UHF is far superior to what you get via streaming them.

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