Apple 'It's Show Time' Announcement

Forums › Online streaming services › Apple 'It's Show Time' Announcement

FineWine

3111 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2440

Trusted

Nurse (R)

Lifetime subscriber

#248148 12-Mar-2019 11:05

Just announced: Apple Sends Out Media Invites for an 'It's Show Time' Event on March 25

Apple is expected to use the event to unveil its rumoured Apple News service and a streaming TV service.

Another player in the market and just following Disney's announcement of its upcoming Disney+ Streaming Platform to Host Entire Disney Motion Picture Library.

My local DVD rental shop, United Video, has just announced it is closing. That only leaves Civic Video (I believe) left in Tauranga. So no more nipping down on a Friday or Saturday night for the latest movie rental. The last Blockbuster in America is now the last in the world.

Though I have Netflix at $15/m and LightBox Free TV series but pay per movie rental, $5 here, $15 here, $20 there, it all starts to add up each month. How fragmented does the streaming industry have to get before people stop paying ? Even with new movie releases straight from theatres after only a 2 to 4 weeks or even original content, or even back catalogues, is it going to be enough to get people to pay for all these separate services ? The market is or soon will be saturated with streaming services all wanting a slice of an ever diminishing pie.

In thinking whilst writing this, providers like Apple Movies with their time limited rental or buy outright service is the way to go. You rent a movie or buy it outright. You rent an episode or buy the series and this is properly where Apple will go with its soon to be announced streaming service.

If that is going to the case then it will, I believe, be quite the game changer, a really big paradigm shift, for the entire industry. Hulu, HBO, Amazon Prime, Disney etc and yes even Sky/Fox will have to rethink their game plans.

Literally A Game of Streaming Thrones is about to commence.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

1 | 2

977 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 524

ID Verified

#2196441 12-Mar-2019 11:08

As a big Apple user, I can't wait for Apple's new streaming and news services to be announced… and US-exclusive.

jarledb

Webhead
3319 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1983

Moderator

ID Verified

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#2196444 12-Mar-2019 11:14

I would not be surprised if its US exclusive. Not because of Apple itself, but because rights of movies and tv series is a minefield.

There has been some stories about how difficult it is for services like Netflix, Spotify etc. so get world wide rights for content. From my understanding they have to deal with the rights country by country.

Don't expect Apple to be able to do any better when it comes to dealing with getting world wide rights for the content.

Jarle Dahl Bergersen | Referral Links: Want $50 off when you join Octopus Energy? Use this referral code
Are you happy with what you get from Geekzone? Please consider supporting us by making a donation or subscribing.

wellygary

8810 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5287

#2196451 12-Mar-2019 11:29

FineWine:

If that is going to the case then it will, I believe, be quite the game changer, a really big paradigm shift, for the entire industry. Hulu, HBO, Amazon Prime, Disney etc and yes even Sky/Fox will have to rethink their game plans.

Literally A Game of Streaming Thrones is about to commence.

Content it King, and OTT services make it very easy to deal with customers, dealing with content creators is much, much, more complicated,

I think the streaming landscape is going to get a whole lot worse (more fragmented) before it gets better, But Disney and Netflix are going to be the big players, sure Apple can deliver customers, but if you are Disney or Netflix its debateable whether you need Apple...

The question is will the big content creators (Netflix, Disney) move to a global model?

Or will they find the current model of slicing up markets and then having people bid up the price of their offerings more profitable..

I think we will find Apple's new offering is heavily US based....

tdgeek

30048 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9455

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#2196463 12-Mar-2019 11:51

I can't see buying movies or buying TV series will happen. People want cheap. $15 for heaps of stuff is now the standard normal. And if there are now 6 players, we can pay for 6, or 4 or 2, and we will probably need to forego something. A new one appears, check it out, maybe have that and cancel another, again we will have to forgo something if we don't want to pay 7 x $15 or $20

This is the competition that was wanted.

TwoSeven

1712 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 304

Subscriber

#2196496 12-Mar-2019 12:56

FineWine:
Though I have Netflix at $15/m and LightBox Free TV series but pay per movie rental, $5 here, $15 here, $20 there, it all starts to add up each month. How fragmented does the streaming industry have to get before people stop paying ? Even with new movie releases straight from theatres after only a 2 to 4 weeks or even original content, or even back catalogues, is it going to be enough to get people to pay for all these separate services ? The market is or soon will be saturated with streaming services all wanting a slice of an ever diminishing pie.

Just my thoughts.

Just thinking on the terminology used in an industry I used to work in there are some terms like “customer spend”.

Basically, how much does one have to spend to maintain ones standard of living. The interesting part of that is ones ‘discretionary spend’. The portion one spends on things wanted rather than needed - such as entertainment, internet etc.

I think a company can measure its average revenue per user (ARPU) and the trick for them would be to maximise it. However, I think in the service world, while one would certainly like to be the one-stop shop and single bill, perhaps the reality is to be able to have a slice of that pie.

So I guess, the question is, how many slices will the average customer agree to - I think service transactions are typically monthly, so might come out of the customers monthly discretionary spend.,

How long will it be before there is consolidation - someone becomes the service aggregator to a single point of billing. I would think this would be the domain of the entity that has the point of presence.

For myself I am thinking that the service providers will likely just turn into icons on the desktop, but like a store, once you enter (footfall) it would be about how long can you keep them there and how often do they return (customer experience).

Software Engineer
(the practice of real science, engineering and management)
A.I. (Automation rebranded)
Gender Neutral
(a person who believes in equality and who does not believe in/use stereotypes. Examples such as gender, binary, nonbinary, male/female etc.)

...they/their/them...

davidcole

6099 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1465

Trusted

#2196592 12-Mar-2019 15:47

Given we haven't been able to buy tv shows for the past 5 years, I can't see any of this being applicable for NZ. We get music and movies only it seems.

Previously known as psycik

Home Assistant: Gigabyte AMD A8 Brix, Home Assistant with Aeotech ZWave Controller, Raspberry PI, Wemos D1 Mini, Zwave, Shelly Humidity and Temperature sensors
Media:Chromecast v2, ATV4 4k, ATV4, HDHomeRun Dual
Server Host Plex Server 3x3TB, 4x4TB using MergerFS, Samsung 850 evo 512 GB SSD, Proxmox Server with 1xW10, 2xUbuntu 22.04 LTS, Backblaze Backups, usenetprime.com fastmail.com Sharesies Trakt.TV Sharesight

Dell

Shop now for Dell laptops and other devices (affiliate link).

antoniosk

2382 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 742

ID Verified

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#2196609 12-Mar-2019 16:21

jarledb:

I would not be surprised if its US exclusive. Not because of Apple itself, but because rights of movies and tv series is a minefield.

There has been some stories about how difficult it is for services like Netflix, Spotify etc. so get world wide rights for content. From my understanding they have to deal with the rights country by country.

Don't expect Apple to be able to do any better when it comes to dealing with getting world wide rights for the content.

Country by country and studio by country. for a global studio thats one agreement, then you need to get rights in each country for the same studio.

Yeah, its a lawyer-fest

________

Antoniosk

stinger

628 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 169
Inactive user

#2196611 12-Mar-2019 16:23

FineWine:

Though I have Netflix at $15/m and LightBox Free TV series but pay per movie rental, $5 here, $15 here, $20 there, it all starts to add up each month. How fragmented does the streaming industry have to get before people stop paying ? Even with new movie releases straight from theatres after only a 2 to 4 weeks or even original content, or even back catalogues, is it going to be enough to get people to pay for all these separate services ? The market is or soon will be saturated with streaming services all wanting a slice of an ever diminishing pie.

Other than Kayo (sports), I only use one streaming service at a time. For the months I use Neon, I don't have Netflix and Lightbox (and visa versa). This is what should happen when the market shards, thinking of paying for all of them is just a waste of money.

FineWine:

In thinking whilst writing this, providers like Apple Movies with their time limited rental or buy outright service is the way to go. You rent a movie or buy it outright. You rent an episode or buy the series and this is properly where Apple will go with its soon to be announced streaming service.

If that is going to the case then it will, I believe, be quite the game changer, a really big paradigm shift, for the entire industry. Hulu, HBO, Amazon Prime, Disney etc and yes even Sky/Fox will have to rethink their game plans.

Literally A Game of Streaming Thrones is about to commence.

If I was to buy outright, it would be a physical product (DVD or Blu Ray), not an online product, which forces vendor lock in (especially for Apple).

I'm in two minds about PPV movies (Stuff pix, Lightbox Movies, etc.). $7ish for a new release movie (as in just released on DVD/BR) seems good value for money (and saves a trip to the DVD store), but I can't seem to push myself to actually rent it.

davidcole

6099 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1465

Trusted

#2196614 12-Mar-2019 16:26

stinger:

If I was to buy outright, it would be a physical product (DVD or Blu Ray), not an online product, which forces vendor lock in (especially for Apple).

I'm in two minds about PPV movies (Stuff pix, Lightbox Movies, etc.). $7ish for a new release movie (as in just released on DVD/BR) seems good value for money (and saves a trip to the DVD store), but I can't seem to push myself to actually rent it.

In my mind rentals are fine, it’s like going to the movies. Or buy physical.

I don’t trust buy digital, there’s been cases where contracts expire, and the media you “own” no longer works (Disney and someone else IIRC)

loceff13

1089 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 340

#2196631 12-Mar-2019 16:57

davidcole:

In my mind rentals are fine, it’s like going to the movies. Or buy physical.

I don’t trust buy digital, there’s been cases where contracts expire, and the media you “own” no longer works (Disney and someone else IIRC)

Sure but how many physical releases can you buy new for the same price as the digital edition?

FineWine

3111 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2440

Trusted

Nurse (R)

Lifetime subscriber

#2196649 12-Mar-2019 17:25

stinger: Other than Kayo (sports), I only use one streaming service at a time. For the months I use Neon, I don't have Netflix and Lightbox (and visa versa). This is what should happen when the market shards, thinking of paying for all of them is just a waste of money.

Yes, I have a relative who has been trying to persuade me to do this for months now. Binge on Netflix for 6 months then suspend account and binge on Amazon Prime for 6 months. But he also uses a VPN, (TunnelBear I think as it is the one he got my sister onto) He gets Hulu and HBO. I will have to choose a Geo service.

stinger: If I was to buy outright, it would be a physical product (DVD or Blu Ray), not an online product, which forces vendor lock in (especially for Apple).

I have 480 DVD's and 40 downloaded. I will this year be buying an Apple TV box and renting movies but only buying very special ones which I will place onto a dedicated HD or 1Tb SSD.

stinger: I'm in two minds about PPV movies (Stuff pix, Lightbox Movies, etc.). $7ish for a new release movie (as in just released on DVD/BR) seems good value for money (and saves a trip to the DVD store), but I can't seem to push myself to actually rent it.

I too have hesitated but with the closure of my local rental store this is the way I will have to go.

'The Times They Are A Changin'. I'll await Apple's new offering and start making some serious decisions re my future entertainment viewing. They will of course have to split up iTunes into separate succinct app's e.g. music, movies & TV Series, etc.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

Apple TV

Stream your favourite shows now on Apple TV (affiliate link).

PhantomNVD

2619 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 759
Inactive user

#2196654 12-Mar-2019 17:31

Digital is king, but having a US account is Queen, as both Apple (movies and rentals) and Netflix work much better if you VPN to LA, so I expect I’ll need to do the same for their streaming option too 🤔

Bonus is they usually have the movies around the same time they come onto our theatres here too 😂

kobiak

1615 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 551

Trusted

#2196658 12-Mar-2019 17:47

I think it will be boring as hell. The hype they're trying to create is ludicrous. I can understand why, because the are so late to join the party and so much behind the netflix.

helping others at evgenyk.nz