YouTube censorship seems over the top to me.

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#310614 5-Nov-2023 23:18

I think it’s still in development, but Louis Rossmann nearly got banned from promoting an Applic he’s working on.

He now has to censor himself or YouTube will ban his channel. So he can’t mention the name grayjay.

You subscribe to creators, rather then platform.

https://grayjay.app/

Also when watching war stuff, a lot of video is pixelated as they say YouTube will demonetise their video if don’t, yet it’s ok for the likes of CNN to show stuff.

One person claimed they couldn’t show even destroyed vehicles, if true some of the censorship seems over the top to me.

I haven’t looked into it but have seen some creators use one called Rumble.

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#3156450 5-Nov-2023 23:35

I've also seen instances of this, but I think everything is being censored now.

There is a YouTuber who does documentaries of Organized Crime and subjects like that to educate people, and has to censor every single "bad" word (Drug for example) otherwise he will be demonetized.

Again, I believe that's just the way the world is going. Everything will need to be PG. Thick skin doesn't exist any more… Especially in (unfortunately) my generation.

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#3156508 6-Nov-2023 08:34

I think the problem is that hosting platforms are expected to police their content or face accusations that they are promoting harmful material.

Since you couldn't throw enough humans at the problem, you implement AI/automation to catch certain words or imagery and unfortunately context is something the automation isn't going to care about.

Personally I think age restrictions are appropriate but aside from that we don't need to be protecting adults. I am not convinced free speech is dangerous, give me the tools to avoid content/users I don't want to see and I'm happy.

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#3156559 6-Nov-2023 08:43

Perhaps Elon Musk should buy YouTube :)

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#3156573 6-Nov-2023 09:20

Just in the last few of days, I've seen a documentary video (Task&Purpose) about the Middle East situation where Hamas has been shown on screen, but the narrator explained he needed to call it H M S because of the threat of demonetization or blocking.

And another that referred to Jeffrey Epstein but that couldn't audibly call him by name, for the same reason. They had to call him J E or Jepstein.

It's pretty ludicrous when balanced documentaries need to self-sensor, but inane conspiracy types can spout their idiocy with no repercussions.

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#3156608 6-Nov-2023 10:28

Looking around the globe, I think our planet is being overtaken by some kind of collective psychosis. Maybe it is sunspots or something like that.

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#3158477 12-Nov-2023 10:15

rugrat:

I haven’t looked into it but have seen some creators use one called Rumble.

If you want to watch conspiracy theories and alt-right stuff...

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#3158489 12-Nov-2023 10:33

Chills: There is a YouTuber who does documentaries of Organized Crime and subjects like that to educate people, and has to censor every single "bad" word (Drug for example) otherwise he will be demonetized.

Is it correct this whole issue is really about monetization?

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#3158509 12-Nov-2023 10:45

Rikkitic:

Looking around the globe, I think our planet is being overtaken by some kind of collective psychosis. Maybe it is sunspots or something like that.

I believe it was largely contributed to by Covid and it's related isolations (For the record I am not arguing the legitimacy, perhaps more the length).

Humans are not designed to be kept confined for long periods, same as it's really not good for the brain to be unemployed for long periods. It put MANY people under huge strain over long periods from significant number of sources.

I genuinely feel like a lot of people haven't fully recovered from that, or are just starting to really come out of that and life is sort of back to normal.

A lot of bad people have taken advantage of the vulnerability of the people too. That hasn't helped.

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#3158510 12-Nov-2023 10:50

gzt:
Chills: There is a YouTuber who does documentaries of Organized Crime and subjects like that to educate people, and has to censor every single "bad" word (Drug for example) otherwise he will be demonetized.

Is it correct this whole issue is really about monetization?

I mean, if making these documentaries is partly their main money-maker then I'd say Yes. But obviously, YouTube can always strike/remove the channel (which in recent history isn't a rarity) so people tend to tread lightly around YouTube's fragile rules.

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#3158541 12-Nov-2023 11:59

networkn:

I believe it was largely contributed to by Covid and it's related isolations (For the record I am not arguing the legitimacy, perhaps more the length).

Humans are not designed to be kept confined for long periods, same as it's really not good for the brain to be unemployed for long periods. It put MANY people under huge strain over long periods from significant number of sources.

I genuinely feel like a lot of people haven't fully recovered from that, or are just starting to really come out of that and life is sort of back to normal.

A lot of bad people have taken advantage of the vulnerability of the people too. That hasn't helped.

I have to say I absolutely could not fathom how a public health issue got turned into a conspiracy. Vaccination is one of the great medical discoveries. Infectious diseases spread by contact. I am fairly certain when I was young (admittedly long ago) no-one questioned the necessity or value of public health measures. We all queued up for our jabs and were glad to have them. But now a brain worm has turned us against science and we are curing ourselves with the entrails of chickens as we howl at the moon. I will never understand it.

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#3158549 12-Nov-2023 12:36

Rikkitic:

I have to say I absolutely could not fathom how a public health issue got turned into a conspiracy. Vaccination is one of the great medical discoveries. Infectious diseases spread by contact. I am fairly certain when I was young (admittedly long ago) no-one questioned the necessity or value of public health measures. We all queued up for our jabs and were glad to have them. But now a brain worm has turned us against science and we are curing ourselves with the entrails of chickens as we howl at the moon. I will never understand it.

This is going off topic but to your point I think a lot of this has come from being several generations away from seeing the impacts of not having vaccinations. When was the last time someone you know got polio? Back in the 60s when they started vaccinating against it I’d argue most families knew of someone who had it. Sadly we’re now starting to see the impacts of not vaccinating with more frequent measles outbreaks.

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#3158551 12-Nov-2023 12:45

Rikkitic:

I have to say I absolutely could not fathom how a public health issue got turned into a conspiracy. Vaccination is one of the great medical discoveries. Infectious diseases spread by contact. I am fairly certain when I was young (admittedly long ago) no-one questioned the necessity or value of public health measures. We all queued up for our jabs and were glad to have them. But now a brain worm has turned us against science and we are curing ourselves with the entrails of chickens as we howl at the moon. I will never understand it.

Globalisation and the internet is awesome for many things, but it makes the reach of the evil people amongst us, far greater than it ever was before. The effort required for an ahole to spread his or her poison is so minimal now and it can be automated (bots).

All you need is one muppet in a position of power to start something and all their followers drink the Kool-Aid, and you have yourself a misinformation pandemic. I am fortunate I have both a doctor and a nurse in my family who I can ask questions of, without fear of recrimination. If I have concerns over medications, they can usually reassure me. Sometimes it can be hard to filter the nonsense from the real information.

I agree around vaccinations and I have strong non-negotiable positions on anti-vaxxers, but no mistake, I feel it's reason to have questions/concerns over vaccinations. I understand peoples initial concerns over what looked to be quickly put together vaccinations. It wasn't immediately clear to everyone they were based on existing vaccination types and it was 'fairly' normal to have put them together quite quickly. Not everyone has the same level of education, nor access to information. There have always been plenty of anti-vaxxers around. My sister is vaccine hesitant.