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antonknee
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  #2490939 25-May-2020 10:38
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RunningMan:

 

Remember that there is no requirement for retail to record details for contact tracing.

 

Retail businesses:

 

  • need to keep customers 2 metres apart
  • do not need to keep records of customers to enable contact tracing.

https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-system/alert-level-2/#workplaces-and-businesses

 

 

No requirement to, but surely can't hurt. The more we have the better surely?




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  #2491517 26-May-2020 09:13
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Based on what I’m seeing locally, we are at L1. I’ve never seen the contract app being used or even referred to. People in shops are doing whatever they like. etc.





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  #2491630 26-May-2020 10:45
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Only site I have found the official notice that worked with the official app was PB Tech. That worked fine but they said you don't need that just go in. They had someone limiting numbers one out one in etc





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  #2491708 26-May-2020 11:45
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I've stopped in to two different cafes/fast food outlets in the last few days to pick up lunch while at work. Neither displayed a QR code, both just had a paper register and bottle of sanitiser at the door.

 

There was no enforcement over the paper register. Many people walked past it or scrawled something illegible in the book. 

 

However, in flicking back a few pages I noted that Donald Duck, Lady Gaga and Freddie Mercury have all eaten lunch in the Oporto Manukau in recent days!


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  #2491710 26-May-2020 11:52
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Senecio:

 

I've stopped in to two different cafes/fast food outlets in the last few days to pick up lunch while at work. Neither displayed a QR code, both just had a paper register and bottle of sanitiser at the door.

 

There was no enforcement over the paper register. Many people walked past it or scrawled something illegible in the book. 

 

However, in flicking back a few pages I noted that Donald Duck, Lady Gaga and Freddie Mercury have all eaten lunch in the Oporto Manukau in recent days!

 

 

Similarly, my wife and I had a coffee date (it seems such a long time ago since we last did that) in Takapuna and we also missed the register on the way in, but were served and enjoyed our drinks/food. On leaving we noticed the register and completed it as best we could, sanitising on the way out - I also tried to scan the QR code but it was for another app altogether so was completely useless. 

 

ONE STANDARD. That's all we need. 





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  #2491965 26-May-2020 16:47
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ronw:

Only site I have found the official notice that worked with the official app was PB Tech. That worked fine but they said you don't need that just go in. They had someone limiting numbers one out one in etc

 

 

That matches my admittedly very ad hoc informal survey that the only places with the MoH QR code up are places with IT people on staff.

 

 

Is there any way to get feedback to the MoH/government to tell them "this is completely broken, you need to fix it"?

 
 
 

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  #2491976 26-May-2020 17:12
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Rippl can now read the MBIE NZBN QR codes, But..... the MoH app will not be modified to read Rippl ones...

 

so it certainly looks like Rippl might be the app to use in Wellington for now.

 

(Paywalled on the NZ Herald)

 

We've got halfway there, following an update released overnight, Rippl's app can now be used to scan posters created for the NZ Covid Tracer app.

 

And that's as far as we'll go, on the scanning front. A spokesman for the Ministry of Health says there are no plans for its NZ Covid Tracer app to get the ability to scan posters created for other apps. There will be no two-way street. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12334986

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2491977 26-May-2020 17:16
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A spokesman for the Ministry of Health says there are no plans for its NZ Covid Tracer app to get the ability to scan posters created for other apps. There will be no two-way street. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12334986

 

 

You can tell the crisis is over when we're back to turf wars and bureaucratic bungling rather than "let's knuckle down and get this sorted".

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  #2492574 27-May-2020 10:09
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Scanned the EB code for kicks

As thought, custom ID header. But seems to be encrypted/encoded info. Wonder how rippl got round that or if they just tag the scan with gps/maps locale after dropping all after the ID/type

NZCOVIDTRACER:eyJnbG4iOiI5NDI5MzAwMDM3MDQxIiwidmVyIjoiYzE5OjEiLCJ0eXAiOiJlbnRyeSIsIm9wbiI6IkVCIEdhbWVzIEdsZW5maWVsZCIsImFkciI6IjM4NSBHbGVuZmllbGQgUm9hZFxuR2xlbmZpZWxkXG5BdWNrbGFuZCJ9

/Edit actually that's likely a standard encode and can prob be read through a decoder

Double edit.. base64 decode

{"gln":"9429300037041","ver":"c19:1","typ":"entry","opn":"EB Games Glenfield","adr":"385 Glenfield Road\nGlenfield\nAuckland"}

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  #2492627 27-May-2020 10:35
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It is not supposed to be a secret - it's a JSON tag. 





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  #2492646 27-May-2020 11:00
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In my limited roaming, KMart in Porirua had the official MoH QR codes at the entrance and the security guard there was instructing people to scan the codes.   The eateries in the food court seemed to be relying on books but not mandating people sign in.  


 
 
 

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  #2492737 27-May-2020 13:06
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  #2492742 27-May-2020 13:15
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Oblivian: Scanned the EB code for kicks

As thought, custom ID header. But seems to be encrypted/encoded info. Wonder how rippl got round that or if they just tag the scan with gps/maps locale after dropping all after the ID/type

NZCOVIDTRACER:eyJnbG4iOiI5NDI5MzAwMDM3MDQxIiwidmVyIjoiYzE5OjEiLCJ0eXAiOiJlbnRyeSIsIm9wbiI6IkVCIEdhbWVzIEdsZW5maWVsZCIsImFkciI6IjM4NSBHbGVuZmllbGQgUm9hZFxuR2xlbmZpZWxkXG5BdWNrbGFuZCJ9

/Edit actually that's likely a standard encode and can prob be read through a decoder

Double edit.. base64 decode

{"gln":"9429300037041","ver":"c19:1","typ":"entry","opn":"EB Games Glenfield","adr":"385 Glenfield Road\nGlenfield\nAuckland"}

 

The spec is here 

 

https://www.health.govt.nz/publication/hiso-100852020-covid-19-contact-tracing-data-standard

 

And the QR code spec is in this document

 

https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/covid-19_contact_tracing_qr_code_specification_25_may_2020.pdf

 

 

 

 


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  #2492743 27-May-2020 13:20
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I wish there was one standard to rule them all...

 

I've now checked in to places with the MoH app, Rippl, DuckIn, ImHere, Covidregister, a Google Form, an Office 365 form and a paper register.

 

The only place with the MoH QR code was my office, and we are already doing tracing with our ID cards swiped to open the door.


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  #2492748 27-May-2020 13:21
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Right. So I'm stupid.

Chur.

Just surprised noone else brought it up earlier rather than query why random QRs weren't reading between apps when it was already obvious there would be specifics.

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