2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2463502 16-Apr-2020 15:17

kingdragonfly: So if an economic downturn due to the corona virus means zoos are asking to kill animals so others can survive, as long as their "cuteness" doesn't play a role, I'm OK with it.

What about feeding the cute animals to the less cute animals? That would solve several problems at once.

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#2463508 16-Apr-2020 15:29

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kingdragonfly: So if an economic downturn due to the corona virus means zoos are asking to kill animals so others can survive, as long as their "cuteness" doesn't play a role, I'm OK with it.
What about feeding the cute animals to the less cute animals? That would solve several problems at once.

Thanks, that gave me a LOL Moment.

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#2463532 16-Apr-2020 15:58

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@hio77 was the experience like I described in this post. CORONAVIRUS NASOPHARYNGEAL SWAB TESTING

Gotcha, exactly as I suspected.

Update for me though. Both my partner and I have tested negative. So we can continue with normal flu fighting measures :)

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#2463578 16-Apr-2020 16:06

Interesting article from the NYT on the dangers of preprint servers when they're misused by people desperate to turn everything into a conspiracy theory.

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#2463579 16-Apr-2020 16:07

hio77:

Update for me though. Both my partner and I have tested negative. So we can continue with normal flu fighting measures :)

Good to hear.

Go nurture your cold by yourselves now.

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#2463592 16-Apr-2020 16:27

Radio NZ - Shopper who used team to stockpile $10k of toilet paper, sanitiser refused refund

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A shopper has attempted to return thousands of dollars' worth of supplies to an Australian supermarket after stockpiling them at the start of the coronavirus panic buying outbreak, a retailer says.

The man, who had tried and failed to re-sell the goods online, was turned down for a refund when he approached an Adelaide supermarket.

Drakes Supermarkets director John-Paul Drake said the man called the supermarket to try to get a refund on 132 packs of toilet rolls and 150 one-litre bottles of hand sanitiser.

He said the shopper bought the goods, worth around $10,000, with the help of a "team" of stockpilers when panic buying surged about four weeks ago. ...

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#2463598 16-Apr-2020 16:36

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Radio NZ - Shopper who used team to stockpile $10k of toilet paper, sanitiser refused refund

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A shopper has attempted to return thousands of dollars' worth of supplies to an Australian supermarket after stockpiling them at the start of the coronavirus panic buying outbreak, a retailer says.

The man, who had tried and failed to re-sell the goods online, was turned down for a refund when he approached an Adelaide supermarket.

Drakes Supermarkets director John-Paul Drake said the man called the supermarket to try to get a refund on 132 packs of toilet rolls and 150 one-litre bottles of hand sanitiser.

He said the shopper bought the goods, worth around $10,000, with the help of a "team" of stockpilers when panic buying surged about four weeks ago. ...

You need to watch the video

https://www.9news.com.au/national/toilet-paper-adelaide-supermarket-boss-rejects-mass-refund-attempt/ced4deaf-fc28-407c-9955-31759e1d3290?ocid=Social-9News

Got to love our Australian neighbors.

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#2463604 16-Apr-2020 16:48

kingdragonfly:

So if an economic downturn due to the corona virus means zoos are asking to kill animals so others can survive, as long as their "cuteness" doesn't play a role, I'm OK with it.

Cuteness pays the bills. People come for the pandas, not the tarantulas.

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#2463613 16-Apr-2020 16:59

Rikkitic:
Cuteness pays the bills. People come for the pandas, not the tarantulas.

That's because they're marketing it wrong. Imagine if you had pandas fighting tarantulas.

In a shark tank.

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#2463619 16-Apr-2020 17:06

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Radio NZ - Shopper who used team to stockpile $10k of toilet paper, sanitiser refused refund

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As usual for this they've omitted the link to the video that the story is about. Here's the original on Youtube.

(With annoying non-skippable embedded ad, unfortunately).

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#2463649 16-Apr-2020 17:19

We are down to 15 new cases. Is it feasible that another fortnight of Level 4 would see us with 4 days of zero cases, which is the determination of "problem solved", I think I'd support going another 2 weeks if after that, it went to level 1 or at least level 2?

Surely, that would be better for the economy, even if the Government had to stump up additional cash to support people through it?

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#2463658 16-Apr-2020 17:34

I am probably just not understanding something; but how can the Bluff wedding on the 21st March be causing new cases still ...

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#2463662 16-Apr-2020 17:40

Press release:

Alert Level 3 will see many significant restrictions on New Zealanders’ movements retained, but will permit aspects of the economy to reopen in a safe way that will allow the economic recovery to begin, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today.

“There are promising signs our go hard and go early elimination strategy is working and the lockdown is breaking the chain of community transmission. Any move to Level 3 cannot put those gains at risk,” Jacinda Ardern said.

“By design, Level 3 is a progression, not a rush to normality. It carries forward many of the restrictions in place at Level 4, including the requirement to mainly be at home in your bubble and to limit contact with others.

“Protecting the health of New Zealanders is our primary focus but we also need to position the economy for recovery. Importantly the test for a business opening at Level 3 moves to it being safe, rather than being essential,” Jacinda Ardern said.

Changes at Level 3 include:

Minor extensions to bubbles.
Sticking to existing bubbles is recommended but some expansion is allowed if, for example, you have a caregiver that you need, children in shared care, a defacto partner who is caring for others, or you’re a single person who wants the company of a sibling for example. Keep it exclusive and keep it small.

Some people can return to work and business reopens if safe

People must work from home if they can. Where that is not possible businesses may re-open but must comply with health and safety requirements around physical distancing and contactless engagement with customers.
Businesses only accessed by the staff, and without a customer facing function, such as building and construction or forestry can open under strict health and safety and physical distancing rules.

Businesses that are accessed by the public or customers such as retail, hardware stores and restaurants can open but only for online or phone purchases and contactless delivery or click and collect.

Partial reopening of education
Early childhood centres and schools will be available up to Year 10 only, but attendance is purely voluntary. For children who are able, distance learning is still the best option. Tertiary education will mostly be through distance learning.

Travel restrictions remain but move from local to regional
This recognises that more people will travel to work, or to take children to school. But to avoid taking potential COVID-19 cases to other parts of the country, restricting movement to what is necessary remains the goal.

Funerals and weddings
Funerals and weddings will be able to go ahead, but limited to 10 people. But they can only be services. No meals, food or receptions can take place.

“We have engaged with sector groups on the details announced so far. Further details will continue to be made available over the coming days,” Jacinda Ardern said.

“The main message remains stay home to save lives. It remains the most effective way to break the chain of transmission. At Level 3 there are slightly more opportunities for you to come into contact with people outside your bubble. As a general rule of thumb, the goal of keeping two metres away from each other still applies.

“To eliminate COVID-19 will continue to take a team-of-five-million effort. Under lockdown we have shown our ability to put in place a virtual wall that has broken the chain of transmission. Our new line of defence when we reach Level 3 is common sense, following the rules and trust in one another,” Jacinda Ardern said.

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#2463667 16-Apr-2020 17:57

freitasm:
Press release:

Sounds like a very sensible tradeoff, resume some functions and see how it goes.

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#2463684 16-Apr-2020 18:42

neb:
freitasm:

Press release:

Sounds like a very sensible tradeoff, resume some functions and see how it goes.

I think so. It allows freedom to slightly expand your bubble, that will allow family to see each other, and close friends.

Cafes, restaurants and bars will do it tough as will retail brick and mortar.

With the emphasis on 2 meters, hand washing and no face to face, its still very level 4, with help to business and cabin fever. The latter point should allow people to weather the storm, without being hemmed in so much. Today, the 15 cases included 11 from clusters, thats huge if it can continue. The Queenstown sentinel testing results will be interesting as we work through this surveillance.

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