It's worth remembering 1 million people die in the world from influenza every year..

sbiddle:

 

It's worth remembering 1 million people die in the world from influenza every year..

 

It's also worth noting that if it's as infective globally as "flu" (seems possible) but mortality rate continues to be in the 3% range, then it's got the potential for a global pandemic that may kill far more than a million people.  

But note that "the flu" isn't one disease - but many, there's some herd immunity, there are partially effective vaccines, treatments, and one strain of Influenza A (Spanish flu) may have caused 50-100 million deaths in one pandemic.

Malaria kills about 1 million a year, more than a million die in road crashes.  Also worrisome statistics, but not particularly relevant to emergence and current epidemic of a novel virus.  It's even quite different from related viruses that caused SARS and MERS.

On a more positive note, of the cases outside China - no reported deaths, and from what I've read many or most of the patients are doing well, some have recovered (awaiting negative virus test results).

maoriboy:

Looks like it has jumped the creek to NZ and being reported in Rotorua - possibly I might add.

https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/232860-three-taken-to-hospital-suspected-coronavirus.html?fbclid=IwAR1yd1N_UIQR4zanvlkkrsr8nf_eYhqGweF9C2zIQvFlMt5th4NXVMk8j14

 

Members of a tour group have been assessed for novel coronavirus infection at Rotorua Hospital.

Three members of a tour group of 19 were assessed at the hospital yesterday as public health services were alerted that they may have been exposed to someone with the coronavirus.

The tour group arrived in Auckland on Saturday evening from Australia and then travelled to Rotorua.

Scary stuff!

gzt:

maoriboy:

 

Members of a tour group have been assessed for novel coronavirus infection at Rotorua Hospital.

 

Three members of a tour group of 19 were assessed at the hospital yesterday as public health services were alerted that they may have been exposed to someone with the coronavirus.

 

The tour group arrived in Auckland on Saturday evening from Australia and then travelled to Rotorua.

 

Scary stuff!

 

 

All members of the tour group were assessed by professionals - corona was not detected.

Link? last I read their blood samples were sent to aussie to be tested for the virus.

dt:

 

gzt:

maoriboy:

 

Members of a tour group have been assessed for novel coronavirus infection at Rotorua Hospital.

 

Three members of a tour group of 19 were assessed at the hospital yesterday as public health services were alerted that they may have been exposed to someone with the coronavirus.

 

The tour group arrived in Auckland on Saturday evening from Australia and then travelled to Rotorua.

 

Scary stuff!

 

 

All members of the tour group were assessed by professionals - corona was not detected.

 

 

 

Link? last I read their blood samples were sent to aussie to be tested for the virus.

 

There is no link, because they were only assessed as not having symptoms.. which does not rule out having the virus.

Batman:

 

Every few years, a new type of coronavirus that normally doesn't infect humans mutates in China and infects humans ... have lost count how many now, but makes me think something fishy is going on there ... or maybe just the sheer population of livestock there mixed with massive population of humans? Anyway, it won't be funny if one day it causes a real pandemic.

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/118920223/humantohuman-transmission-confirmed-in-china-coronavirus

 

so it turns out there is a secret/mystery virus research lab in wuhan ... https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12304087

Dratsab: It's not hard to imagine the outbreak started a lot earlier and province administrators kept schtung hoping it could be treated and would just go away without them being blamed for it or embarrassing their leader.

dt: On another note, my wifes uncle is trapped in a city that neighbors Wuhan that has also been locked down he said they are running out of food and water there, there is no bottled water left in the city and they are having to compromise with the likes of juices, coke, red bulls etc.. the army is everywhere and he said said there is a lot of "fear" in the air.

Dratsab: A mate of mine just sent me a video with 3 pieces of footage purportedly taken in hospitals in Wuhan. The translation on the videos makes the claim that over 90,000 people are infected and some are dying in the hospital corridors because they can't get treatment. Supposedly a transmission rate of 14.

are you able to host these? both my wife and son are fluent in Mandarin (wish I learnt 10 years ago when I first had the opportunity to!) they would be able to verify whats being said.

I would be interested to see them as well 

dt:

Dratsab: A mate of mine just sent me a video with 3 pieces of footage purportedly taken in hospitals in Wuhan. The translation on the videos makes the claim that over 90,000 people are infected and some are dying in the hospital corridors because they can't get treatment. Supposedly a transmission rate of 14.

are you able to host these? both my wife and son are fluent in Mandarin (wish I learnt 10 years ago when I first had the opportunity to!) they would be able to verify whats being said.

I would be interested to see them as well 

 

 

Batman:

dt:

 

Dratsab: A mate of mine just sent me a video with 3 pieces of footage purportedly taken in hospitals in Wuhan. The translation on the videos makes the claim that over 90,000 people are infected and some are dying in the hospital corridors because they can't get treatment. Supposedly a transmission rate of 14.

 

 

 

are you able to host these? both my wife and son are fluent in Mandarin (wish I learnt 10 years ago when I first had the opportunity to!) they would be able to verify whats being said.

 

 

 

I would be interested to see them as well 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While you may be able to verify the translation there is no way of verifying the facts. Unless you are the local Chinese government health expert at ground zero with the actual data and the actual knowledge to interpret the data.

But I'm not surprised if it were actually 90,000 or higher. The court population is 11 million.

Most definitely, its more out of interest than taking it as hard fact. 

dt: are you able to host these? 

Link emailed with further explanation of why I doubt the video. I won't post it here. The source appears dodgy to me as well, in other words I think it's FUD but it'll no doubt get traction across social media.