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#2916499 20-May-2022 14:04

vexxxboy:
Geektastic: I’m still living the life of a hermit in order to minimise the opportunity to catch it. Fingers crossed.

i was like you. only left the house to go get groceries, wore a n95 mask when i left the house and had the 3 vaccines , still got it i dont know where and i can see people saying whats the point of doing everything possible to not get it and i still get it, so why should i bother.

I suppose it depends on what getting it might do to you if you get it.

Of course, you can’t eliminate the chance of getting it without literally becoming a hermit, perhaps in a hut in Alaska.

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#2916500 20-May-2022 14:06

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@FineWine:

So, my isolation clock starts again for seven days. My generous partners, 😀, clock stops on Sunday and he may return to work Monday even if still positive. We verified all of this with the COVID help line.

More books and movies. We stopped baking as not good for us ☹️.

New Household isolation timeline tool/calculator: Create household isolation timeline

yep thanks. Had already done that

I must say MoH has done a great job with their COVID websites if people bother to go to these websites and if people take the time to read and inwardly digest the very informative information and instructions. It is quite “Sesame Street” language. Yes there will be edge cases but that is what the 0800 number is for.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2916503 20-May-2022 14:11

FineWine:

So, my isolation clock starts again for seven days. My generous partners, 😀, clock stops on Sunday and he may return to work Monday even if still positive.

Yip, As a postive case your partner simply needs to isolate for 7 days, they don't need a negative test on release,

On their 7th day release they become exempt from having to isolate as a contact for 3 months.

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#2916510 20-May-2022 14:37

wellygary:

FineWine: So, my isolation clock starts again for seven days. My generous partners, 😀, clock stops on Sunday and he may return to work Monday even if still positive.

Yip, As a postive case your partner simply needs to isolate for 7 days, they don't need a negative test on release,

On their 7th day release they become exempt from having to isolate as a contact for 3 months.

I personally find it super odd but we is just following the rules.

Youngest tested Positive on the 11th, Wife on the 15th, me and eldest on the 17 & 18th respectively. Middle daughter is still RAT testing negative and since she has been in a household for 7 days ~~years~~ since the 11th she was free to roam school etc from yesterday and youngest as long as she is symptom free can leave as well.

Edit... Lol, it feels like years.

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#2916522 20-May-2022 15:13

BarTender:

...she has been in a household for 7 years...

Isolation at your place is brutal!

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#2917350 22-May-2022 20:09

For the first time ever I've had my phone alert me I am a close contact to someone who has tested positive.

I am really not sure who it could be as I had very few times in the past 36 hours I haven't been wherever I was with my wife.

Could be at the squash club I guess but my squash partner hasn't tested positive apparently. My wife's phone hasn't alerted.

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#2917352 22-May-2022 20:16

It's primarily based on forget me not BT now (since noones bothering to do location push/sporting))

So you may never know. But it'll be closeish proximity for a defined period.

You can check your phones logs for the queries and stats in the tracer app now reflect..last time I looked it was 4:1 alerted vs reported

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#2917476 23-May-2022 09:11

Does anyone know how long you need to have been in proximity for the alert to fire? I am honestly puzzled to where I could have been exposed that my wife wouldn't have also been exposed. The Squash court is the only place, and I guess it's possible because my bag was in the common (ish) area that it pinged off someone else's phone in their bag or something. My on court partner didn't get an alert and hasn't tested positive, and our bags were possibly only <5m apart, I can't recall accurately.

I guess knowing the distance detection occurs and period of time would help me narrow it down.

We contacted the tracing people who knew nothing but acknowledge the app hadn't been updated in a while and they would update the language as the wording on the app is incorrect and doesn't reflect current isolating or testing instructions.

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#2917497 23-May-2022 09:37

Going a little off course (app has its own thread)
The original documents for privacy sign off explain it on pg 79 on MoH.
But that has been adjusted to match our exposure specific when it come to light that BT was not used in the initial phase by OIA request with default settings (as it may have overrun tracing?).

So it will be unknown.

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#2917643 23-May-2022 14:37

Onto Day 6.. Still feeling smashed and yesterday taking my dog for a leisurely 25 mins walk around the block buggered me whereas it was an easy walk beforehand. Glad I was boosted as I hate to think how this could have gone if I wasn't vaxed.

Highly recommend anyone who can avoid the 'Rona.. does exactly that.

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#2917646 23-May-2022 14:40

So it will be unknown.

I find it pretty unacceptable the location causing the alert isn't available even if the name of the person who has it isn't available (understandably). I don't care WHO has it, I want to assess my personal risk based on my 'exposure' to determine if I should try isolating from my family so that if I have contracted it as a result, I can try and prevent myself from giving it to others.

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#2917653 23-May-2022 15:12

Covid in the baby's daycare on the day he was there. No chance of monitoring for symptoms as he's crook with the gastro outbreak that everyone else has been getting.

Absolute worst time for wee ones in their first few weeks of a new environment.

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#2917654 23-May-2022 15:14

networkn: I find it pretty unacceptable the location causing the alert isn't available even if the name of the person who has it isn't available (understandably). I don't care WHO has it, I want to assess my personal risk based on my 'exposure' to determine if I should try isolating from my family so that if I have contracted it as a result, I can try and prevent myself from giving it to others.

There isn't much that MoH can do with the Exposure Notification Framework as it's the Google / Apple and they don't collect location information when the Bluetooth Low Energy does peer to peer communication and it is designed privacy first so bad nation states don't use the data to do bad things.

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#2917659 23-May-2022 15:34

I turned off the Bluetooth exposure notification on my phone as soon as the QR codes were removed from entrances and contract tracing was ended.

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#2917660 23-May-2022 15:34

BarTender:

There isn't much that MoH can do with the Exposure Notification Framework as it's the Google / Apple and they don't collect location information when the Bluetooth Low Energy does peer to peer communication and it is designed privacy first so bad nation states don't use the data to do bad things.

You beat me to it while taking a call.

I had drafted up similar:

Good thing everyone still scans QRs and shares the actual location list too then eh. Oh wait.

There is nothing in the BT payload for location. That's how it still manages to exists in our privacy requirements. It's fully anonymized.

The idea is to give those notified a 'it's still about' reminder and re-check heads-up. Not a YOU GOT IT HIDE!.

ala, Are we taking precautions near people outside immediate encounters. Are you covering up in the right instances. And if you feel the need check on yourself to be sure (getting an alert may qualify for a Rat pack?) do so. It isn't an immediate requirement to hermit yourself anymore, But rather keep it in the back of mind. You could come down and pass it on. So try not to by all the other means.

But if you have only been around your partner, and not face to face with someone within short range indoors for an extended period who wasn't covered up. There is probably a low likelyhood. Which is why they have opted for the boundries they have driving it.

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