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#273324 16-Aug-2020 17:25

Given some comments on the negative effects on some people of the main Covid19 discussion thread, I thought I'd have a go starting a thread specifically for covering non-negative aspects of Covid19. This one is purely for discussing the non-distressing aspects, tips on how to cope, humour, and generally avoiding getting into "we're-all-going-to-die" type material. To start things off, a link to a new IMDB entry for a reality TV show, The 1pm Daily Update. Based on the reviews it's quite good.

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#2542439 16-Aug-2020 17:28

My partner who works at Rebel Sport loves that she can tell customers to back right off a couple of meters because of Covid-19. She's a firm believer in personal space.

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#2542465 16-Aug-2020 17:56

My hand hygiene has improved enormously.

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#2542478 16-Aug-2020 18:35

While this outbreak is not ideal, I feel its helped some get past the "its over" tag. Minimum, IMHO, its here for 2 years, in some form or other. A vaccine arrives, the globe wont get it in 5 minutes, its a long haul. When its L1 or 2, enjoy, but don't take it for granted.

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#2542480 16-Aug-2020 18:41

My wife says i was made for a life of shutdowns as i hate going out anywhere and now i have a ready excuse when people and relatives invite me to places.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2542484 16-Aug-2020 18:47

tdgeek:

While this outbreak is not ideal, I feel its helped some get past the "its over" tag. Minimum, IMHO, its here for 2 years, in some form or other. A vaccine arrives, the globe wont get it in 5 minutes, its a long haul. When its L1 or 2, enjoy, but don't take it for granted.

The problem is NZ can't keep going into level 3 or 4 each time a case sneaks in, due to us not picking the outbreak in time.

There needs to be a plan on how to manage new cases getting through. Whether this means us having to live in a level 1.5, which means masks and recording our movements with apps etc, which should reduce the R0 rate if case gets through, and mean that outbreaks will be reduced in size when they are detected. This cluster looks like it is going to be at least 50, because of the 2 + week delay in detecting it while in level 1, and probably over 100 people will be infected IMO. Plus we need more robust procedures at the borders, and everyone working around the border needs testing regularly, including airline workers, and all staff wearing masks. Maybe it also means restricting people entering the country, to more manageable numbers. Our international tourism is going to be limited no matter what happens. Would be interested to hear other peoples ideas on how we can do this.

But IMO the elimination approach needs to continue, and it is the right one for NZ and the economy, and it does work. I am feeling positive that we can live in a Covid free NZ for the next few years until a vaccine comes along.

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#2542485 16-Aug-2020 18:50

vexxxboy:

My wife says i was made for a life of shutdowns as i hate going out anywhere and now i have a ready excuse when people and relatives invite me to places.

:-) Im a bit like that. Out all day today with mates, was great, but Im also happy in my own company. The lockdown didn't affect me. But I do feel for those that need others and plenty of outside contact. That's tough when the choices are forced against them

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#2542486 16-Aug-2020 18:53

I like the fact its shown the true value of the Fibre network that has been built with so many people working from home and that it is now a new normal with a lot of work places.

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#2542492 16-Aug-2020 19:04

mattwnz:

tdgeek:

While this outbreak is not ideal, I feel its helped some get past the "its over" tag. Minimum, IMHO, its here for 2 years, in some form or other. A vaccine arrives, the globe wont get it in 5 minutes, its a long haul. When its L1 or 2, enjoy, but don't take it for granted.

The problem is NZ can't keep going into level 3 or 4 each time a case sneaks in, due to us not picking the outbreak in time.

There needs to be a plan on how to manage new cases getting through. Whether this means us having to live in a level 1.5, which means masks and recording our movements with apps etc, which should reduce the R0 rate if case gets through, and mean that outbreaks will be reduced in size when they are detected. This cluster looks like it is going to be at least 50, because of the 2 + week delay in detecting it while in level 1, and probably over 100 people will be infected IMO. Plus we need more robust procedures at the borders, and everyone working around the border needs testing regularly, including airline workers, and all staff wearing masks. Maybe it also means restricting people entering the country, to more manageable numbers. Our international tourism is going to be limited no matter what happens. Would be interested to hear other peoples ideas on how we can do this.

But IMO the elimination approach needs to continue, and it is the right one for NZ and the economy, and it does work.

This is outbreak 1. It was always going to happen as was stated often by Govt and MoH. MIQ are not prisons. So leaks will occur, thats fundamental. I predicted 50 on day one, yes, probably more, but so far they are all linked, so no CT from the current index case upwards. We do restrict incomings. to match MIQ capacity.

You cant expect 100% secure, not unless we deadlock each MIQ in their room for 14 days and slide food under the door. I assume there is a legal issue re how draconian we can be.

I do get where all your posts are coming from, but I'm unsure how much force and locks we can get away with. Shutting the border is an option, again legal issues if we deny Kiwis or residents entry.

Maybe we could lock the border for a period, to clear MIQ, then re open MIQ by halving the hotels and retaining staff levels thereby doubling security. But we have to recognise that MIQ is an intentional leak that we accept.

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#2542497 16-Aug-2020 19:19

The number one positive for me is that it's dragged NZ at least a decade ahead of where it would otherwise have been on its attitude towards working from home plus flexible working. Before it was a kind of thing that people just tolerated or individual teams/managers did on a discretionary basis, with a limited subset of shining examples where flexibility as to time and place of work was an established norm.

A good win for workers.

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#2542516 16-Aug-2020 19:26

I am pleased we live in a country where our leadership acted decisively and put health first in contrast to leadership in for example USA, UK, Brazil, Victoria that didn't put health first or hesitated at the cost of many lives

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#2542523 16-Aug-2020 19:52

dejadeadnz:
The number one positive for me is that it's dragged NZ at least a decade ahead of where it would otherwise have been on its attitude towards working from home plus flexible working. Before it was a kind of thing that people just tolerated or individual teams/managers did on a discretionary basis, with a limited subset of shining examples where flexibility as to time and place of work was an established norm.

A good win for workers.

Yup, agree. Rather than send my kids to after school care each day I now pick them up and finish the day working from home. Both them and me are happier as a result. And I have more money in my pocket thanks to not paying for said after school care.

Thanks COVID 👍

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#2542524 16-Aug-2020 20:09

SheriffNZ:
dejadeadnz:

The number one positive for me is that it's dragged NZ at least a decade ahead of where it would otherwise have been on its attitude towards working from home plus flexible working. Before it was a kind of thing that people just tolerated or individual teams/managers did on a discretionary basis, with a limited subset of shining examples where flexibility as to time and place of work was an established norm.

A good win for workers.

Yup, agree. Rather than send my kids to after school care each day I now pick them up and finish the day working from home. Both them and me are happier as a result. And I have more money in my pocket thanks to not paying for said after school care.

Thanks COVID 👍

You would have more money, but obviously it's probably a small business? So if everyone pulled their kids out, those workers would be jobless. Double edged sword eh.

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#2542525 16-Aug-2020 20:13

SheriffNZ:

Yup, agree. Rather than send my kids to after school care each day I now pick them up and finish the day working from home. Both them and me are happier as a result. And I have more money in my pocket thanks to not paying for said after school care.

Thanks COVID 👍

Nice. In my case, what I gained at work was a much happier team -- we are mostly pretty introverted people and most of them (and I also) dislike working 5 days a week at the office. My wife is an ER doctor and obviously does shift work -- being able to spend more time with her has been massive.

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#2542561 16-Aug-2020 21:50

tdgeek:
mattwnz:

You're off topic guys keep it positive in here please.

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#2542567 16-Aug-2020 22:10

First Lockdown bought 20kg of flour to accompany the other 2x5kg already in the pantry, 1 kg yeast, had various jars of sourdough starter bubbling on the bench tops because that’s what the world prescribed. Baked ONE loaf of bread and 6 pitta breads since March 23rd. I have enough food not only for another lockdown but for a nuclear winter caused by an Earth-directed CME

It’s nice that families are getting so much extra time together and many people are actually enjoying working from home. I like my own company so it wasn’t such a sacrifice and many friends found it a calming time.

Like all the other plagues and pestilence over centuries this too will end, its memory will be dulled and life will go on. You are confined only by the walls you build yourself.

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