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#1438447 1-Dec-2015 11:45

JonnyCam:
If the police are just trying to get people to slow done during the holiday period when there are a lot more vehicles, and less experienced drivers, on the road then whatever means is OK.

You want to think about that for a moment? You're saying the Police can do *anything* they want to get people to slow down?

There has got to be some limit to Police powers. And it's not going to be the Police who set that limit.

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#1438463 1-Dec-2015 12:08

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timmmay: "Hey, we're going to enforce the speed limit". Seems reasonable.

Assuming of course that the speed limit is set at a reasonable value.

That is irrelevant, the legal maximum is 100KM/H

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1438526 1-Dec-2015 13:13

bigreddog: Would give a better impression if they followed the lead from Australia and made infringements during peak holiday times double demerit points. Shows then it's not *just* about revenue gathering!

Not just that, there's also "blitzes" on random road rules that are made extremely public and that often coincide with double demerits. E.g. the police will announce that "for two weeks, we're focusing on people following too closely" and they'll just zoom around paying particular attention to people following too closely. During these high visibility campaigns they also tend to adopt a zero tolerance policy - you don't get warnings, because your warning that it's illegal was the media release.

Then there's NSW, who are increasing the base demerits for things like mobile phone use to four (which means during double demerit periods, that's eight points for using your phone - you only get 13!)

Then again, also bear in mind that unlike in NZ, you get demerits for camera detected offences (speed cameras) too.

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#1438565 1-Dec-2015 13:34

Wish I now had adaptive cruise control, rather than just cruise
With fuel efficient tires on my new car, I find it next to impossible now to just lift off the pedals in order to slow down. I just keep on going at the same speed.

Thankfully I am not heading away over the next few months, but I am more than likely to get pinged on my way to/from work

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#1438569 1-Dec-2015 13:42

I never go over 100

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#1438585 1-Dec-2015 13:52

Funny a lot you aren't happy about getting a ticket for breaking the law. 4kmph is that because it's the acceptable allowance for error with a speed camera (or at least it used to be last & only time I got a speed camera ticket).

Don't want to pay a fine? Don't speed quite simple really. Yes there's also other things they can focus on but their jobs are to enforce the law. The law clearly states the speed limits we have. If you break the law expect that occasionally you're going to get in trouble with the law & often there's a price tag to go along with it.

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#1438591 1-Dec-2015 13:59

Those displays that tell you the speed that you are going also seem to be out. I set my mazda 3 to 50 exactly, and one said I was going 55, they other said I was going 48. The womans voice will nag me if I go 3km over that 50km limit. 4km tolerance IMO is below the margin of error. 5-6km/h tolerance would be better, just due to the margins of error, and the lack of calibration in vehicles., I suspect from their analytical data, they can dial up the revenue they will get by altering the tolerances. I just think of it as another tax.
I think they need to get tougher on people who still use mobiles when driving (not when stopped). I see so many real estate agents for example, on the phone when driving.

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#1438593 1-Dec-2015 14:03

Detruire:

Then there's the people who sit close behind while you're doing 100 (according to your speedo, at least), back off when you hit a passing lane and slow down to 80-90, then close in again once you speed back up to 100 after the passing lane.

They should get harder on people travelling too close, as it is one of the leading causes for accidents. I predict technology will solve this, to prevent people getting too close. It is already in some of the higher model cars with adaptive cruise control..

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#1438594 1-Dec-2015 14:03

mattwnz: Those displays that tell you the speed that you are going also seem to be out. I set my mazda 3 to 50 exactly, and one said I was going 55, they other said I was going 48. The womans voice will nag me if I go 3km over that 50km limit. 4km tolerance IMO is below the margin of error. 5-6km/h tolerance would be better, just due to the margins of error, and the lack of calibration in vehicles., I suspect from their analytical data, they can dial up the revenue they will get by altering the tolerances. I just think of it as another tax.
I think they need to get tougher on people who still use mobiles when driving (not when stopped). I see so many real estate agents for example, on the phone when driving.

Not a tax, all driving offences are avoidable.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1438596 1-Dec-2015 14:05

mattwnz:
Detruire:

Then there's the people who sit close behind while you're doing 100 (according to your speedo, at least), back off when you hit a passing lane and slow down to 80-90, then close in again once you speed back up to 100 after the passing lane.

They should get harder on people travelling too close, as it is one of the leading causes for accidents. I predict technology will solve this, to prevent people getting too close. It is already in some of the higher model cars with adaptive cruise control..

All driving ofences will be solved when driverless vehicles are the only vehicles permitted on public roads.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1438678 1-Dec-2015 15:32

And how many of us or other people in NZ have their speedo's calibrated on a regular basis, when so many things can cause your speedo to read under or over what you're actually doing. My car alone going from 175/70/14 tyres to 185/60/14's puts my car under by 5 Kph so when it reads 50 I'm actually doing 45

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#1438679 1-Dec-2015 15:40

mattwnz: 4km tolerance IMO is below the margin of error. 5-6km/h tolerance would be better, just due to the margins of error, and the lack of calibration in vehicles.

Except legally, the speedometer cannot be calibrated to read LOWER than the actual speed (e.g. cannot read 50 when actual speed is 55), but it may read HIGHER than the actual speed (e.g. can read 50 when actual speed is 45) by a moderate amount (I believe it's 10%, or 10%+4kmh).

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#1438689 1-Dec-2015 15:53

A lot of speedometers are off by about 10%. Nothing new there, and a bit irritating for those of us that use GPS to keep to the speed limit.

BUT, what is the accuracy of equipment, with 4 KM/H limit on 100 KM/H roads it really should be more or less completely accurate, but I seriously doubt it is.

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#1438692 1-Dec-2015 15:56

jarledb: A lot of speedometers are off by about 10%. Nothing new there, and a bit irritating for those of us that use GPS to keep to the speed limit.

BUT, what is the accuracy of equipment, with 4 KM/H limit on 100 KM/H roads it really should be more or less completely accurate, but I seriously doubt it is.

argh GPS for checking speed, the font is way too small I would have to take of my distance glasses and put on my reading glasses to read it. Easier just to use the speedo and cruise control.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1438722 1-Dec-2015 16:30

keewee01:
OR hey, here's an idea - they could actually start concentrating on [other] REAL crimes that they tend to ignore - burglery, gangs of wayward children hanging around urban shopping centres threatening the public, vandalising property and stealing from the shops. Tackle some of the crimes that are actually more important to people and that have a greater affect on society!

The government funds the police with a certain percentage targeted for traffic enforcement... so to concentrate on other crimes would require a government change rather than it being an operational police matter. Successive governments (regardless of their political leanings) seem happy for the police to take the flack for what is really government policy.

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