What’s the company policy for charging portable devices in the office?

Dingbatt:

 

What’s the company policy for charging portable devices in the office?

 

Electric bikes and scooters are a no no

Underclass:

 

Dingbatt:

 

What’s the company policy for charging portable devices in the office?

 

 

Electric bikes and scooters are a no no

 

I was thinking more about phones, tablets and laptops…..  All of which have been known to burst into flames.

Ah then no they don't care about those. If they did it'd be a decent issue given half the workforce has company-issued laptops they seem to use on site. 

myopinion:

 

They (EVs) are far nicer to drive day to day than an ICE car. That's the starting point. 

 

Hmmmmm, That's a very subjective and very sweeping statement. While it may be true for you it's certainly not my experience. None of the EV's I've driven or had a ride in were nicer to drive or ride in than ICE cars that I drive.

jarledb:

 

Which insurance company is this? That is crazy. EVs have 1/20th of the chance (based on real world statistics) to catch fire as a petrol/diesel car.

 

An insurance company demanding that cars that are that much less likely to catch fire be treated as if they were fire hazards must have something else going on, because it is not based on real world facts.

 

If you're familiar with risk martices you'll realise you're only considering one of the two main parameters, that is Probablity and you're ignoring Impact.

The impact of an EV fire is significantly greater, they're much much harder to extingiush. Most ICE fires can be extinguished or at least contained with one or two hand held extinguishers. Good luck trying that with a Lithuim battery fire.  It's the impact that really drives up the risk for EV's. 

The risks as evnafets posted about are based on real world facts.

Technofreak:

 

Most ICE fires can be extinguished or at least contained with one or two hand held extinguishers.

 

I guess they should have known that at this parking house in Stavanger, Norway. Where a fire in a diesel car caused complete damage to the parking house and damaged 1300 cars.

There are several parking houses, including Oslos biggest parking house which is underground where they obviously not only have gotten to the opposite conclusion to this unknown insurance company. Even to the degree that they have allowed Tesla to install Tesla Super Chargers underground.

I am pretty sure you will find more research like this (PDF), that concludes the same way.

Are BEV fires hard to extinguish? Sure. But not to the degree that one has concluded they are too high of a risk in other parts of the world. Or, for that matter - in New Zealand where there are also several parking houses that not only allow electric cars, but also have installed fast chargers for electric cars.

atsan: How much is the average maintenance cost for tesla after the basic warranty expires? Is it expensive to get any parts replaced?
And is it good idea to buy imported used tesla or NZ new vehicles (used)?

Not sure about parts as I am not all that versed in car parts in general, but from the discussions in the Tesla owner forums it doesn't seem like people are too up in arms about the costs.

As to wether imported is a good idea: Most imported Teslas I have seen has been from Japan, which could give you trouble with fast chargers in NZ because they use different charging plugs. Another thing is that Tesla won't do any guarantee repairs on imported cars.

With the amount of used NZ new Teslas on the market now, I would think long and hard before buying an imported Tesla from Japan.

Technofreak:

 

 Most ICE fires can be extinguished or at least contained with one or two hand held extinguishers.

 

thats not remotely true.

car fires can only be put out by hand held extinguishers if they are caught in the very early stages. most are far to well devolved by the time people notice. ice or battery doesn't matter, they all contain to much combustible material. hand held extinguishers are just to small. 

Technofreak:

myopinion:

They (EVs) are far nicer to drive day to day than an ICE car. That's the starting point. 

Hmmmmm, That's a very subjective and very sweeping statement. While it may be true for you it's certainly not my experience. None of the EV's I've driven or had a ride in were nicer to drive or ride in than ICE cars that I drive.

I particularly enjoy the lack of sound while climbing up Transmission Gully, while effortlessly cruising past other vehicles that are droning away in the slower lanes.

Regen braking on the downhill side also means that I don't have to worry about the car speeding up while using cruise control.

Obraik: 
I’m not sure it’s that subjective. Most people will enjoy the smoother acceleration, the one pedal driving and the lack of engine drone compared to the ICE vehicle most people drive.

A small minority will argue that their ICE vehicle drives better day to day, but I’m sure there was a similar minority that thought horses were better than new ICE vehicles back during that transition.

I most definitely think it is subjective.

Smoother acceleration? When comparing to what I currently drive I'd say that's a wash. 

One pedal driving? Are you saying you never use the brakes? To be fair I do use engine braking a lot of the time. So meh to single pedal driving.

Engine drone? Tyre and wind noise though mostly tyre noise is what I hear when driving which is what I guess you hear too. I'd say the lack of noise is a wash as well.

Your comparison to the horse isn't a suitable comparison. Most EV's are an ICE chassis with a BEV powertrain, they aren't a totally different mode of transport like a horse is to a car. 

I didn't say an ICE was better, just that for many drivers it is equal to an EV. Both ICE and EV have their strong points. I'd say your "small minority" is a great deal bigger than you think.

I was responding to a statement that was a blanket statement saying EV's were better. To say out right one is better than the other isn't in my opinion being objective. Hence my statement that opinion was subjective.

Technofreak:

 

Smoother acceleration? When comparing to what I currently drive I'd say that's a wash. 

 

One pedal driving? Are you saying you never use the brakes? To be fair I do use engine braking a lot of the time. So meh to single pedal driving.

 

Engine drone? Tyre and wind noise though mostly tyre noise is what I hear when driving which is what I guess you hear too. I'd say the lack of noise is a wash as well.

 

I can confirm the difference between my model 3 and modern ICE which I also own. As far as your points go:

 

1. Yes, there is smoother acceleration between the model 3 and my ICE. The ICE has a 9 speed auto and when I bought it, it was the smoothest vehicle to accelerate to the speed limit, but the model 3 has it beat. There is constant torque all the way up to the limit where as the ICE you can feel when it drops out of its ideal RPM for torque.
2. Yes, the model 3 one pedal driving is significantly different to ICE engine braking. The previous diesel I had, I would use engine braking a lot, but it wouldn’t bring the car to a stop and would be less effective at lower speeds. Regen will stop the car surprisingly quick and take it to a complete stop and the same deceleration rate. I can’t remember the last time I actually used the brake pedal, but I do remember when I did how effective it was when disc brakes and regen work at the maximum.
3.  My ICE has got active noise reduction piped through the car speakers, and even at 100km/h doing 1200 RPM it is about 68 decibels inside the cabin. Vs the model 3 at 100 km/h which is 55 decibels.

Mehrts:

I particularly enjoy the lack of sound while climbing up Transmission Gully, you effortlessly cruise past other vehicles that are droning away.