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sir1963

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#286082 4-Jun-2021 11:20
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Lets look at some of the arguments.


 


Cyclists pay road taxes when they use their car.


True, but that covers the use of the car while on the road. Its not like motorists with 2 vehicles get to only pay for one.


There are some cyclists who do not own cars.


Motorists also pay additional fees for certain sections of road, the Auckland Harbour Bridge , Mt Maunganui bridge, Northern gateway toll road, etc.


 


Local roads are paid by rates, and cyclists pay rates.


Again true, but in Auckland and other regions motorists are paying up to 10c a litre extra that goes to councils to pay for roads .


People who swim also pay rates, but they are expected to pay extra if they want to use the swimming pool.


Dog owners pay rates, they are also expected to pay registration fees for their dogs.


 


People don't pay to use foot paths


Again true, footpaths are paid from rates but the majority of people will use them during normal every day life, even if its walking from shop to shop.


 


The government is looking to spend $700 Million for a new cycle/foot bridge in Auckland , will this be paid for my motorists ?


Should cyclists contribute more towards these projects, they use all of the facilities effectively for free and rely on the "everyone else" who do not use the facilities to pay most of the costs.


 


 


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  #2718204 4-Jun-2021 12:00
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Increase GST on Lycra and coffees.

 

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  #2718425 4-Jun-2021 18:26
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KrazyKid: Interesting thread.

Did you have a counter to the climate change argument?

I'm also not sure how you think a 10x in heath cost savings is a bad thing along with reducing congestion and CO2. Sure if it was the only saving maybe, but when combined with other benefits...

 

The problem with the CO2 argument is that it assumes that the only alternative to a bicycle is a fossil fuelled car.

 

I personally get around fine by walking and using electrified public transport, and it has never bothered me that I have no idea how to operate a bicycle. I have to say, dodging bicycles on the Wellington waterfront keeps me extremely fit. 


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  #2730629 18-Jun-2021 13:17
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Guys, seriously, don't bother. Let @sir1963 have his soapbox and just stop engaging. This is just beyond ridiculous at this point.


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