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#115832 8-Apr-2013 20:23
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Hi all,

I have a 2001 Toyota Ipsum 240S, six seater.  the two middle seats have ISOFIX / LATCH but I need to put one seat in the back row.  This seat has a top tether strap for connecting to an achor bolt.  Where is the spot located to install the achor bolt.  I have seen nothing definative anywhere.  There are various points in the car (on the backs of seats and back corners of the car) where there is what I understand to be luggage tie down points but these only hold 25kg, whist that may seem enough, it is not.  So I need to know for the back (3rd) row where to attach or where to put the achor bolt for the top tether strap of the carseeat.

No mechanic I have phoned thus far knows.  They all say bring it in and we will look.  My manual is in Japanese, (Iwill be getting an english one), Toyota said to brin it in for them to look to, no one can tell me 'oh yes, I know where that goes; to inspire any confidence.

I would rather like to keep the parcel tray on and be able to use it (flip it up and down) if I can.

Please anyone out there let me know.

Thanks.

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  #795223 8-Apr-2013 20:29
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Garages are not the best source for this information.
Go to your nearest Plunket office, they regularly have free car seat fitting days, whereby the seats are fitted by people trained to fit car seats.
You may also find information on the Plunket website, or an email address to contact them without travelling to the office.




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  #795230 8-Apr-2013 20:37
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Thank you, I dont know when the next free day is and I kind of need it done ASAP, I may not be able to wait for the next free day.  You would have thought Toyota would know.  I have an appointment with them for tomorrow, to see and possibly fit, but I wanted to go in knowing if you know what I mean.

 
 
 
 


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  #795236 8-Apr-2013 20:50
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I don't know about the Ipsom but it sounds like you got the same problem with a 2003 Corolla. For a 2003 Corolla, the hole / socket for the anchor point (for the left rear seat) is located a few centimeters to the right of the luggage hold down point. The complicate the matter further, the hole is covered by the boot lining but if you look carefully you can see a cut out, looks like a flap that kind of things.

That you should fit the the anchor point with the screw provided by the car seat to the hole / socket. It should fit easily.

Never use the luggage hold down point, they are not strong enough and will snap in an accident.

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  #795237 8-Apr-2013 20:51
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jasonwaiheke: Thank you, I dont know when the next free day is and I kind of need it done ASAP, I may not be able to wait for the next free day.  You would have thought Toyota would know.  I have an appointment with them for tomorrow, to see and possibly fit, but I wanted to go in knowing if you know what I mean.


By the way, where is your office located and where do you live?



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  #795243 8-Apr-2013 21:00
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I am in the Wellington Region, the Toyta guy I spoke with said they have put them in before, he did some research and he does not have any safety documentation or something to say exactly where the points are located to install an anchor bolt (they dont come factory installed) as some models have docuementation showing where they are located, or where they are designed to be located if not fitted in the factory.  But he said that he could locate a point and install it.  Most helpful thus far, hence why I booked.



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  #795245 8-Apr-2013 21:02
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Problem is you see I cannot read a Japanese Manual, and until I get an English one I will not know if it says in the manaual or not where they are.

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  #795249 8-Apr-2013 21:12
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I hope this picture helps.  Remember this is for a 2003 Corolla.  =-)

Green arrow points to the luggage hold point, never use this.

Orange arrows point to those bloody boot lining that cover the luggage hold point and anchor point.

Red arrow shows you where I installed the bolt and the anchor point thing.

Can you PM me your email address and I till send you a high res photo.

Cheers!

AKLWestie

 
 
 
 




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  #795255 8-Apr-2013 21:26
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thanks AKLWestie, the picture is actually quite clear, I will look for something similar in my car, any trouble and I will let you know.

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  #795961 10-Apr-2013 08:29
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We deal with these often at my work.
To be fair, not all mechanics will (or should) know about seatbelt tethers/anchor points. In your case, there aren't as many Ipsum's around as there are Corolla's or Legacy's. It's also an import, and many things could have been modified or removed from the vehicle before it even hit our shore.

The best thing is to take it into a Toyota dealership and one of the service persons or mechanics will have a look for free and give you the info. It's difficult to find things or diagnose problems over the phone, so always best for them to have a look at your car.

At my work, we can locate the anchor points but we send the vehicle to a local seatbelt specialist who is fully accredited (engineering wise).
There looks to be a number of seatbelt specialists in WLG who can install anchor points, so call around and get some quotes.

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  #797245 10-Apr-2013 16:51
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Should have bought a Euro like a late model Golf.

Complete with ISOFIX and built-in tether point.

Totally fuss-free

:)

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  #797256 10-Apr-2013 17:06
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you want to carry kids in a golf? where are you going to put the pram? on the roof?




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  #798304 12-Apr-2013 11:09
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Thanks all.  Took the car to Toyota, very tidy, very professional installation of the achor bolt.  And I had to be told late on the night before, when it is too late to cancel, that if I was able to wait just two days I could have taken it to Plunket and get it done for free.  Oh well, I needed it done ASAP, I did not know about Plunket deal, and I needed to know where the best location was for the location of the carseat in that vehicle.  And I was very imressed all round with the job, the time and the price.

I did however pop up to Plunket when they were doing free safety checks and anchor bolt installs anyway, to get a once over of all my installed car seats, and to get a free second bolt put in in case I needed it for an extra seat or to move one of the seats in the car to a different spot.  And I am glad i did not wait, it was busy when I got there, I would have had to have waited around not be able to leave and come back which did not suit me, and they did not have time to do mine anyway on the day, but I got a voucher to get it done for free through the mechanic that was on site at a later date.  And as I have one done by Toyota already, locating it will be the easy part, it will just be the putting it in that needs to be done

Win win all round I must say.

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  #798311 12-Apr-2013 11:20
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jasonwaiheke: Thanks all.  Took the car to Toyota, very tidy, very professional installation of the anchor bolt.  And I had to be told late on the night before, when it is too late to cancel, that if I was able to wait just two days I could have taken it to Plunket and get it done for free.  Oh well, I needed it done ASAP, I did not know about Plunket deal, and I needed to know where the best location was for the location of the carseat in that vehicle.  And I was very impressed all round with the job, the time and the price.

I did however pop up to Plunket when they were doing free safety checks and anchor bolt installs anyway, to get a once over of all my installed car seats, and to get a free second bolt put in in case I needed it for an extra seat or to move one of the seats in the car to a different spot.  And I am glad i did not wait, it was busy when I got there, I would have had to have waited around not be able to leave and come back which did not suit me, and they did not have time to do mine anyway on the day, but I got a voucher to get it done for free through the mechanic that was on site at a later date.  And as I have one done by Toyota already, locating it will be the easy part, it will just be the putting it in that needs to be done

Win win all round I must say.


Any chance you can post a picture or tell me were it went . I have an ipsum and interested where the anchor bolt goes





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  #798314 12-Apr-2013 11:23
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Same here. Would like a pic also. We have an ipsum 2005 model.




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  #798410 12-Apr-2013 14:16
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Sure will take a picture and post tonight.  I have the 6 seater model, but I understand this is also similar with the 7 seater model.

The first row of seats in the back have ISOFIX in both seats if the 6 seater or the two outer seats if a 7 seater.  ISOFIX and LATCH are the same thing

The second row in the back have nothing, the tags on the back are for luggage not achor points unless it is a silver looking flap that has a car seat with an achor picture on it that opens up to reveal a steel rod running though the back of the seat.  So Toyota ran the strap down the back of the seat, through the carpet at the very bottom of the back of the seat, under the parcel tray (not through it) into the compartment underneath and fitted the bolt in the compartment.  Very tidy, professional and well done.

The Toyota guy said there is no official safety documentation for the that model and year indicating where the achor bolts are desighed to be fitted, so with no pre-determined location it is about finding the best structural location in the vehicle to attach that works with ensuring the car seat is safest and all other functions and features are working as they were before.

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