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#130760 26-Sep-2013 21:30
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This guy needs to get his facts correct before letting rip with such tripe.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11123255

These new approach paths actually take aircraft away from residential areas.  Interestingly these new approach paths were in operation for about six months with no increase in noise complaints, it wasn't till there was a news article about them that the noise complaints started rolling in.

Also so far as I know Auckland Airport has always been a 24/7 operation I don't know where he got the 7 am till 10 pm operating hours from.  The rest of the article is full of similar errors.

I know it's an opinion piece and everyone is entitled to their opinion but at least they should verify any of their "facts" prior to publishing.  I'm surprised the Herald would allow such a poorly researched article to be published, it certainly doesn't help their credibility.




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  #903367 26-Sep-2013 21:33
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With little to no profit in the humble newspaper they'll print anything these days - without checking it!



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  #903489 27-Sep-2013 08:40
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Remember the NZ Herald are the same people who ran a massive campaign against TelstraSaturn deploying their HFC network in Auckland that played a part in the plans being abandoned.


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  #903493 27-Sep-2013 08:44
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Technofreak: This guy needs to get his facts correct before letting rip with such tripe.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11123255

These new approach paths actually take aircraft away from residential areas.  Interestingly these new approach paths were in operation for about six months with no increase in noise complaints, it wasn't till there was a news article about them that the noise complaints started rolling in.

Also so far as I know Auckland Airport has always been a 24/7 operation I don't know where he got the 7 am till 10 pm operating hours from.  The rest of the article is full of similar errors.

I know it's an opinion piece and everyone is entitled to their opinion but at least they should verify any of their "facts" prior to publishing.  I'm surprised the Herald would allow such a poorly researched article to be published, it certainly doesn't help their credibility.


Some journalists take emotive issues and simply play to the readers a one sided story instead of doing both sides of the story. 

There have been 2 particular items in the news over the last couple of years which I've known some behind the scenes facts and journalists print something quite different. 

I imagine it happens rather often. 



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  #903530 27-Sep-2013 09:24
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This is exactly what "opinion" columns are.  They are usually labeled "OPINION" and can be safely ignored.  Sadly, people do not.

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  #903532 27-Sep-2013 09:29
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They've also been known to print "facts" on high profile situations which are very biased and differ significantly to the actual events.

Journalistic integrity ain't what it used to be.





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  #903534 27-Sep-2013 09:30
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stevenz: They've also been known to print "facts" on high profile situations which are very biased and differ significantly to the actual events.

Journalistic integrity ain't what it used to be.



That is also true.  Speed to publish > fact checking these days it seems.

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  #903584 27-Sep-2013 10:11
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I live in Mangere Bridge so relatively close to said airport and have yet to hear obtrusive aircraft noise (other than that triple engine great barrier thing). If anything the new flight path gives passengers a nice flyover perspective of the city and seeing planes flying overhead adds to the atmopshere of the city

 
 
 

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  #903609 27-Sep-2013 11:07
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Technofreak:  I'm surprised the Herald would allow such a poorly researched article to be published, it certainly doesn't help their credibility.


You are 'surprised'? You don't read the paper much? 

It is all about selling the next paper, today. Things like 'credibility' are tomorrows problem, if tomorrow dawns and there are people left considering buying a news paper. 

I'm not up with the issues around Auckland Airport but I do know the media and this is journalism in 2013. 

As I usually say; There are better blogs than the Herald out there, might as well read them. 




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  #903795 27-Sep-2013 15:08
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ubergeeknz: This is exactly what "opinion" columns are.  They are usually labeled "OPINION" and can be safely ignored.  Sadly, people do not.


You missed my point.

The trouble this guy as well as expressing an opinion is spouting FUD.

If I say mowing lawns in the middle of the night isn't neighbourly, that's an opinion.

If I say ubergeeknz isn't being neighbourly by mowing his/hers lawns in the middle of the night, especially when I don't know if my facts are correct, isn't an opinion, it is FUD.




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  #903956 27-Sep-2013 21:55
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Newspapers often let certain opinions through and conceal others. Journalists do the same and editors make further changes. I think the days of truly unbiased investigative journalism started with 19 .

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  #904135 28-Sep-2013 13:23
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Wade: I live in Mangere Bridge so relatively close to said airport and have yet to hear obtrusive aircraft noise (other than that triple engine great barrier thing). If anything the new flight path gives passengers a nice flyover perspective of the city and seeing planes flying overhead adds to the atmopshere of the city


yep I moved to Mangere Bridge 6 moths ago from Sandrinham and its  really quiet in comparison. I used to hear aircraft a bit there but here its bliss and no police helicopters or hoons running away from police.




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  #904156 28-Sep-2013 14:09
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The thread topic could easily be applied to a few in here as well, amybe its just me but seem to be getting more people starting venting threads.




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  #904188 28-Sep-2013 15:20
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Its always good to read how twisted some peoples opinions are, Specially when there are media releases of ISP's and they have no idea what they are talking about and have been fed information by irate individuals who also have a twisted opinion. The sad part is most of this country doesn't know better and takes it as the truth.


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Also so far as I know Auckland Airport has always been a 24/7 operation I don't know where he got the 7 am till 10 pm operating hours from.  The rest of the article is full of similar errors.

the 7 am till 10 pm may have been pointed to the trial of new flight routes, which indeed happen between 7 am and 10 pm. the report was not accurate (like most of the time)

the trial of new flight routes cut short (to save air nz fuel bill among others) and descend lower over more residential areas and I believe that's a genuine concern.

but I have to say the neighbourhood closer to the usual take off landing routes (i.e. within the high/moderate aircraft noise zone and aircraft noise notification zone) are much worse for much longer, especially after midnight when flights are taking off towards inland, and some flights allegedly making turns over more residential areas before reaching the required 1km height restriction.

Mangere bridge should be relative quiet as it doesn't seem to have many overhead jumbo flights even if they are closer to the airport than some on the ground.

ideally we'd have a curfew between 11 pm and 6 am or thereabout (not unlike adelaide), but the location of NZ means we cannot always arrange flights to arrive/leave in a time window that cause less frustration to some residents.

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Which airlines will be participating in the SMART approaches trial?
Only airlines with aircraft installed with the necessary aircraft systems and approvals will be participating in the SMART approaches trial. At this stage Air New Zealand, Qantas and Jetstar aircraft have the capability to use the new SMART approaches.

 

With only a few airlines having the capability and approvals to fly SMART approaches, the actual number of aircraft flying these approaches will be limited. In addition, the SMART approaches are “capped” during each stage of the trial process and are only operating between 7am and 10pm each day.

http://www.airways.co.nz/about_Airways/smart-approaches.asp


Trial landing approach leaves some Auckland residents angry at noise and worried about property values.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10895401


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