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Topic # 160005 19-Dec-2014 19:17
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On the Northwestern Motorway this afternoon in the other lane I noticed a dark blue speed-camera van. Complete with magnetic orange light above the drivers door to fit in with the surrounding construction cars. I applaud the marked van they use, and can understand the need for unmarked vans but feel a step too far has happened when the camera vehicles are "disguised"

This makes me feel the police are being less than fully honest and does reduce my respect, re-enforcing the revenue concept.
I have no bias, never having had a camera speeding ticket , but do think the "contract" between police and public is stretched by this behavior

What do you folks think

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  Reply # 1200755 19-Dec-2014 19:19
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It shouldn't matter if you follow the speed limit.

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  Reply # 1200756 19-Dec-2014 19:20
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benokobi: It shouldn't matter if you follow the speed limit.


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The idea of unmarked cars / vans is that you stick within the law while driving where ever you go and not just slow down when you see a marked police car / van

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  Reply # 1200758 19-Dec-2014 19:22
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it is so easy to make the camera, the van irrelevant 




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Reply # 1200760 19-Dec-2014 19:27
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Speed camera vans are nothing more than revenue gathering devices. I'd be surprised if they have any effect on reducing the road toll. 

You only have to be in the flow of traffic to notice everyone slowing down and then speeding up again once past the camera.

Having a disguised camera van seems completely pointless, no ones going to slow down, having nil effect in reducing the road toll, plus to add to the cheek, I seem to recall the North Western motorway having areas of reduced speed to 80kmh, no doubt that's where the van is hiding. 



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  Reply # 1200762 19-Dec-2014 19:31
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If no one speeds there is no revenue, so simple. 




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Reply # 1200766 19-Dec-2014 19:36
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KiwiNZ: If no one speeds there is no revenue, so simple. 


I wouldn't necessarily consider speeding as doing 85kmh in a reduced 80kmh zone. With the ludicrous tolerance reduction, that 85kmh will see you ticketed. 

Driving a large car, you only have to look away from the odometer for all of 10 seconds and easily creep up 5-10kmph without noticing. 




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  Reply # 1200767 19-Dec-2014 19:37
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gmball: I seem to recall the North Western motorway having areas of reduced speed to 80kmh, no doubt that's where the van is hiding. 


yea because there is roadwork, road workers and narrow lanes, the lower speed is about safety for motorists and the workers doing their job

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  Reply # 1200771 19-Dec-2014 19:42
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gmball:
KiwiNZ: If no one speeds there is no revenue, so simple. 


I wouldn't necessarily consider speeding as doing 85kmh in a reduced 80kmh zone. With the ludicrous tolerance reduction, that 85kmh will see you ticketed. 

Driving a large car, you only have to look away from the odometer for all of 10 seconds and easily creep up 5-10kmph without noticing. 





The speed limit is 80KMH for a reason. Just do 80KMH 




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  Reply # 1200772 19-Dec-2014 19:49
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Here we go again, yet another "I am a perfect driver therefore the rules don't apply to me" thread. Some people need some lessons in basic physics.

 

 

Slow down, obey the road rules, and enjoy the drive = no revenue gathering. Simple really.




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  Reply # 1200779 19-Dec-2014 20:08
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i look forward to the Police rolling out cameras to detect slow drivers and trucks in the right hand land....

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  Reply # 1200780 19-Dec-2014 20:13
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nathan: i look forward to the Police rolling out cameras to detect slow drivers and trucks in the right hand land....


The slow driver thing is tricky, what is slow? the code refers to "slow inconsiderate" but thats a open ended statement. Given the speed states the Maximum permitted speed is 100KMH it does not specify a minimum and there word from the authorities is the 100KMH is not a target.
I agree though the slow inconsiderate driver is dangerous.






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  Reply # 1200790 19-Dec-2014 20:23
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KiwiNZ:
nathan: i look forward to the Police rolling out cameras to detect slow drivers and trucks in the right hand land....


The slow driver thing is tricky, what is slow? the code refers to "slow inconsiderate" but thats a open ended statement. Given the speed states the Maximum permitted speed is 100KMH it does not specify a minimum and there word from the authorities is the 100KMH is not a target.
I agree though the slow inconsiderate driver is dangerous.




i personally see this as a bigger concern than someone going a few K over the limit.

Its likely to cause far more risk if someone going very slow (say for arguments sake, an example i see pretty commonly 40 in a 80 zone) Often all this does is drives people to take Stupid risks - Had multiple instances recently of this were the oncoming car was taking the risk in my lane.




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  Reply # 1200791 19-Dec-2014 20:26
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nathan: i look forward to the Police rolling out cameras to detect slow drivers and trucks in the right hand land....


You will then also look forward to get a ticket when you're stuck in a traffic jam or slow moving traffic.







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  Reply # 1200792 19-Dec-2014 20:26
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If I have to travel under the limit eg towing I pull over at the first opportunity to allow vehicles to pass, I will slow further to allow them to pass safely.




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  Reply # 1200795 19-Dec-2014 20:28
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KiwiNZ: If I have to travel under the limit eg towing I pull over at the first opportunity to allow vehicles to pass, I will slow further to allow them to pass safely.


I really do wish more people were as considerate as you.




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