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#284250 9-Apr-2021 16:34

I wonder how much of this goes on all the time around the country and how will it impact EV adoption. Just now, behind Johnsonville library - three of four EV charging spaces are taken by non-EV.

Will we need enforcement through fines at some point?

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#2690065 9-Apr-2021 16:36

Go inside and tell the Librarians, they are usually up for fights like this.... :)

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#2690068 9-Apr-2021 16:42

This is something that would put me off purchasing an electric vehicle. If you raise it with the council it would be very interesting to see what sort of response you get.

To be honest there needs to be more proactive parking enforcement across suburban areas of Wellington more generally. I often see vehicles blocking footpaths and driveways and nothing gets done until someone calls the council to report it.

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#2690069 9-Apr-2021 16:42

I can see how that would be annoying if you're trying to charge-hop a long distance.

On the other hand, is what they're doing legally an offence? Apparently it is https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/electric-shocker-petrolheads-snag-auckland-ev-charging-spots/XFU4OQKKP2S6IOAQB3VZSJXCZY/

I can see we might be in happy times for EV owners right now, where they get what some might see as preferential treatment for 'parks with charging'.

What are we going to do when the fleet is majority EV? There definitely won't be enough charging parks then.

@freitasm you should have called the council, this is same as using a disability park.

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#2690071 9-Apr-2021 16:49

I can see it both ways though - in a lot of locations, the number of normal parks that have been lost does not seem to be in proportion to the percentage of EVs on the road.

Pretty frustrating to have all the EV parks empty and nowhere to park.

Edit - but I do agree, it does really need to be enforced or there is no reason for people to leave those parks available.

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#2690074 9-Apr-2021 17:08

As an EV owner I can tell you this is common and annoying. It is basically the same as parking your car in front of a petrol pump and walking away for an hour to go shopping.

But what can you do. Hopefully as EVs become more common people will be more understanding...

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#2690118 9-Apr-2021 17:19

My wife looked into this after noticing the same thing. I think there are bylaws or similar against this, if reported to WCC they may be ticketed.

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#2690120 9-Apr-2021 17:31

KrazyKid: As an EV owner I can tell you this is common and annoying. It is basically the same as parking your car in front of a petrol pump and walking away for an hour to go shopping.

I can see that. It gets annoying at a petrol station waiting for people to get their milky coffees and that's relatively faster.

What's the enforcement on EV parks if it's filled with an EV? Are they time limited?

When the fleet is majority EV we'll be fuming at EVs left there for hours otherwise.

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#2690121 9-Apr-2021 17:34

Ask those with Disability Stickers, they have suffered for years from A-holes like that.

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#2690122 9-Apr-2021 17:35

I thought most car parks had a sign with a phone number to report vehicles? One issue I can see in the future as more manufacturers move to EVs and plugin hybrids, is that some vehicles maybe both, and it may not be obvious whether a vehicle is a plugin EV vehicle or not. eg The new Rav4 Prime coming out is a plugin hybrid, and can be run as a pure EV, but also has a gas engine. This is compared to a normal Rav4 hybrid that you don't plug in. Although obviously only those vehicles who are actually charging shoul dbe using those car spaces

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#2690127 9-Apr-2021 17:39

Best practice is to put ev charging spaces in the least desirable part of the car-park to reduce this kind of stuff. Sadly not allways workable.

elpenguino:

I can see that. It gets annoying at a petrol station waiting for people to get their milky coffees and that's relatively faster.

What's the enforcement on EV parks if it's filled with an EV? Are they time limited?

When the fleet is majority EV we'll be fuming at EVs left there for hours otherwise.

Time limit depends for EV's depends on the space. The majority of the charge.net.nz fast charge network like the one's pictured do not have a time limit.

Vector fast chargers have a 30minute time limit, and standard (AC) chargers 120 minutes.

EV charging spaces in Auckland transport carparks have a time limit too.

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#2690159 9-Apr-2021 18:22

mattwnz:

I thought most car parks had a sign with a phone number to report vehicles?

I should walk every day so I could go through the car park twice daily and call reporting tools like these...

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#2690184 9-Apr-2021 19:17

Maybe they will have cameras on the charging stations, and fine non EVs parking in those spots eventually. If these are pay chargers it will be affecting their revenue.

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#2690187 9-Apr-2021 19:20

alasta:
This is something that would put me off purchasing an electric vehicle. If you raise it with the council it would be very interesting to see what sort of response you get.

To be honest there needs to be more proactive parking enforcement across suburban areas of Wellington more generally. I often see vehicles blocking footpaths and driveways and nothing gets done until someone calls the council to report it.

In Christchurch at least it’s actually the official policy to not enforce those kind of offences unless someone complains. Why? Because it’s usually the owner doing it.

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#2690188 9-Apr-2021 19:23

Perhaps we need to ask our American friends for extra traffic enforcement tools...

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#2690218 9-Apr-2021 20:50

boosacnoodle:
alasta:

This is something that would put me off purchasing an electric vehicle. If you raise it with the council it would be very interesting to see what sort of response you get.

To be honest there needs to be more proactive parking enforcement across suburban areas of Wellington more generally. I often see vehicles blocking footpaths and driveways and nothing gets done until someone calls the council to report it.

In Christchurch at least it’s actually the official policy to not enforce those kind of offences unless someone complains. Why? Because it’s usually the owner doing it.

That's fair enough for a blocked driveway, but not if a public footpath or walkway is obstructed.

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