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I see a news item that an adults-only cruise ship has been introduced. I wonder if this idea has ever been tried with airlines, and if not, why. While I am not autistic, I do seem to have some traits in that direction. Harsh noises really bother me. I mean really, really bother me to the point that I want to curl up and die. What absolutely drives me crazy is parents who bring screaming babies and toddlers onto long-haul flights. It almost seems inevitable. You can't get on an airplane without some kid behind you blowing its lungs out. 

 

I don't hate children. I actually quite like them. But being confined in a close space with a crying child is like torture to me. In the past, airlines at least used to seat people with children in the front, but now they are scattered throughout the plane. I can't afford to fly business class privately but I would gladly pay a premium for a child-free economy flight. Does such a thing exist? Maybe airlines should look into it. They might find a whole new market.

 

 

 

 





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  # 2165245 22-Jan-2019 11:19
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  # 2165269 22-Jan-2019 11:33
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i find a mildly sympathetic approach with kids on long haul flights helps.  Some of them have no choice, family bereavement requiring travel, or simply going to see family they otherwise might not get to, the globe is pretty small now days.  Its not a pleasant experience for the kids either, as adults we handle the changes well enough, but I've seen fully grown adults suffer a bit with take off and landing.

 

A friend of mine takes small bags the kids hand out to near by passengers that give the eye roll of doom when they walk down the isle.....


 
 
 
 


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  # 2165277 22-Jan-2019 11:42
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If only bad behavior were just confined to kids...





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  # 2165296 22-Jan-2019 12:15
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Rikkitic:

 

What absolutely drives me crazy is parents who bring screaming babies and toddlers onto long-haul flights.

 

 

Trust me, parents don't do this by choice.

 

 

I can't afford to fly business class privately but I would gladly pay a premium for a child-free economy flight.

 

 

Try premium economy. Most families can only afford economy.

 

 


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  # 2165301 22-Jan-2019 12:25
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I assume this is the cruise being referred too...

 

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/virgin-voyages-scarlet-lady/index.html

 

I really wouldn't want to be a cleaner on that ship.....

 

And as for kids on planes, especially toddlers and babies, it's harder for them with the pressure changes during takeoff and landing. For a toddler at least you can have a lollipop type of lolly for them to suck on to help with this. For baby noises, maybe some noise cancelling headphones?

 

Most parents will try and calm a distressed child, they don't like it just as much as you don't.

 

And for toddlers on domestic flights maybe the airlines introducing in seat entertainment could help (sometimes) with upset kids, give them something to distract them.

 

 


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  # 2165306 22-Jan-2019 12:34
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Not much stresses me out more than when I know we've got to take our kids (3 and 5) on a flight from NZ to Australia.

 

It's only 3 hours, but it's hard for them.  When they were even smaller it was even more stressful.

 

 

 

Trust me, it's sĥit for you, but it's even more sĥit for us parents who are trying every damn trick we have in the book to make them not scream/screech/annoy everyone.  Unlike an adult, you can't REASON with a child to stop crying/screaming. Their ears hurt, they're bored, they need to go to the toilet for the 4th time.  Ugh it's stressing me out just thinking about it.

 

Anyway, I know the misery.  Even when I'm flying by myself I hate it when I end up near a crying child.  But these days, while I feel sorry for myself, I feel sorry for the poor parent who's doing everything they can to not annoy their fellow travellers flight with their screaming child.

 

More places should offer a "child free" experience though, I agree.


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A friend of mine takes small bags the kids hand out to near by passengers that give the eye roll of doom when they walk down the isle.....

 

 

What is in the small bag? Lollies? A Gun? Earmuffs?


 
 
 
 


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  # 2165315 22-Jan-2019 12:40
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I find quality noise cancelling headphones more than enough to remove the stress of loud kids/adults/cabin noise.


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  # 2165320 22-Jan-2019 12:45
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Rikkitic:

 

I see a news item that an adults-only cruise ship has been introduced. I wonder if this idea has ever been tried with airlines, and if not, why. While I am not autistic, I do seem to have some traits in that direction. Harsh noises really bother me. I mean really, really bother me to the point that I want to curl up and die. What absolutely drives me crazy is parents who bring screaming babies and toddlers onto long-haul flights. It almost seems inevitable. You can't get on an airplane without some kid behind you blowing its lungs out. 

 

I don't hate children. I actually quite like them. But being confined in a close space with a crying child is like torture to me. In the past, airlines at least used to seat people with children in the front, but now they are scattered throughout the plane. I can't afford to fly business class privately but I would gladly pay a premium for a child-free economy flight. Does such a thing exist? Maybe airlines should look into it. They might find a whole new market.

 

 

 

 

 

 

how about you do something for you to prevent you from hearing the kids? noise cancelling headphones, ear plugs etc.

 

you cant/wont stop kids making noises on planes, and its a next to no chance of having an adults only plane trip anywhere, unless its a "adults only" flight if you get the gist

 

you just have to deal with it, or choose another method of getting where you need to go


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  # 2165321 22-Jan-2019 12:45
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Rikkitic:

I see a news item that an adults-only cruise ship has been introduced. I wonder if this idea has ever been tried with airlines, and if not, why. While I am not autistic, I do seem to have some traits in that direction. Harsh noises really bother me. I mean really, really bother me to the point that I want to curl up and die. What absolutely drives me crazy is parents who bring screaming babies and toddlers onto long-haul flights. It almost seems inevitable. You can't get on an airplane without some kid behind you blowing its lungs out. 


I don't hate children. I actually quite like them. But being confined in a close space with a crying child is like torture to me. In the past, airlines at least used to seat people with children in the front, but now they are scattered throughout the plane. I can't afford to fly business class privately but I would gladly pay a premium for a child-free economy flight. Does such a thing exist? Maybe airlines should look into it. They might find a whole new market.


 


 



Very similar to my views and feelings on this. I really do think it’s partly an ‘age thing’ - on our part (no pun intended). The older I get, the less tolerant I am of plane kids.

A good pair of NC earphones is a life saver - but that doesn’t save me from the kid behind me who keeps kicking the back of my seat. Nothing riles me more and if it keeps going I have no hesitation complaining to the parents and/or the cabin crew.

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  # 2165330 22-Jan-2019 13:06
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Rikkitic:

 

While I am not autistic, I do seem to have some traits in that direction. Harsh noises really bother me. I mean really, really bother me to the point that I want to curl up and die.

 

 

I am also very agitated by noise, people have suggested to me that I also have some traits in that direction haha.. Like I cannot have music playing around conversations that loud, I am useless at parties with loud music. Other mates are more than happy to have something blaring in one ear and someone else in another. They can also somehow understand each other too. Maybe the AspergesADHDADDTism is starting to get to me. 

 

 

 

At the end of the day, we cannot change the fact those little sh1ts have to join us on the same plane. So if you handle it like someone who yells at a fast food employee or even someone who yells at a child then you will look like the idiot. So just deal with it.. 


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  # 2165334 22-Jan-2019 13:13
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We were all children once. Head phones, book and chill. The trip is what you make it.





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  # 2165339 22-Jan-2019 13:22
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I don't have any kids of my own, but I have nothing but respect for the parents who need to travel with kids. It must be awfully stressful trying to manage a child in melt down when you know the entire plane is questioning your parenting skills. I'd much rather sit next to a over energetic child than and obnoxious drunk adult.

 

 

 

Last week I flew to Sydney for a business meeting. Its a stressful time of year and I was presenting to the board on our recovery plans. I had every intention of working through the flight until the 6yr old next to me broke out her colouring-in book and asked for help with her fairy princess. After finishing that she taught me how she plaits her doll's hair. A life skill that I may never use again but one that I've learnt never the less. It did wonders to take my mind off my presentation.


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  # 2165342 22-Jan-2019 13:23
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Put foam earplugs under noise cancelling headphones. NC only works on low frequencies, together they work well. Just turn the volume up a bit.

 

Parents do their best to keep kids quiet, but children aren't reasonable.




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  # 2165354 22-Jan-2019 13:33
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Let me try to make myself clear on this. I am not anti-child but facile comments about grinning and bearing it don't help. For whatever reason, I am hypersensitive to this kind of noise. It doesn't just make me uncomfortable. It makes me suffer. It is exactly like sitting next to someone scraping their fingernails down a chalkboard for 6 or 8 or whatever hours. People who don't have this issue just don't understand it. 

 

So I get that people with children also have to fly and they don't enjoy imposing this on others. Fair enough. I am just asking why airlines don't do something about it. I would imagine enough other people might be bothered by this kind of thing to make child-free flights a worthwhile marketing idea. I don't know.

 

 





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