Christopher Luxon, New Zealand Prime Minister 2023

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#3401609 11-Aug-2025 10:22

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360786763/hung-parliament-predicted-new-poll-national-falls-behind-labour

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says the public doesn’t want him “talking about myself or polls”, after a new poll showed Labour would overtake National in a hung parliament if an election was held today.

I dunno, I guess if polling's like that things aren't exactly going swimmingly, are they? He needs to remember that people impacted by the high cost of living won't "just hold on" forever.

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#3403771 15-Aug-2025 11:59

Final cost to buy no ferries: $671M. The party of good economic management, everyone.

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#3403786 15-Aug-2025 14:13

Yeah, and that's back to close to square 1 for futureproofing our ferry connection. Some of the port upgrades were not reversible so some benefit there, but whatever comes next will not benefit from the work done or money spent to date. With the way prices and services are increasing, and knowing Contractors will price the risk of cancelations into the next generation of work, I don't see the replacement plan being cheaper if it offers equivalent levels of service. What a mess

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#3403895 15-Aug-2025 18:38

I see Adern was subpoenaed for the Covid Investigation according to Luxon. But she wasnt. They have all given a lot of time to this, no reason to subpoenae them as they were there, and are there as is needed. Luxon needs to back off the Trump lies syndrome. The person managing this investigation stated just that, i.e. they were there answered all the questions and more

Politics is politics, but leave the lies to Trump please. Thanks.

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#3403897 15-Aug-2025 18:44

CruciasNZ:

Yeah, and that's back to close to n 1 for futureproofing our ferry connection. Some of the port upgrades were not reversible so some benefit there, but whatever comes next will not benefit from the work done or money spent to date. With the way prices and services are increasing, and knowing Contractors will price the risk of cancelations into the next generation of work, I don't see the replacement plan being cheaper if it offers equivalent levels of service. What a mess

But it saved money today. And if and its now a long if, we modernised for the future it will cost a bundle

Home analogy, we need to update our crappy kitchen. We can do it now and do it right, it will cost a bundle. Or we can accept the cancellation fee and do it right in 5 years that will COST A BUNDLE

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#3405158 17-Aug-2025 07:55

https://archive.ph/UO2A5

New Zealand’s economy isn’t just bad – it’s one of the worst in the developed world. We had a deep recession last year; other countries did not. And we’re looking at round two. Partly, that’s due to the Government suddenly cancelling, delaying or scaling back a bunch of infrastructure work, which contributed to the large loss of construction jobs. Partially, it’s soaring energy prices killing our manufacturing sector.

You can launch all the policies with energetic names like Investment Boost and Going for Growth you like; it doesn’t matter if none of them move the needle. You spend your time trying to blame Labour for spending during a pandemic, while borrowing even more yourself for tax cuts; it doesn’t create a single job.
You can’t spin away a crisis. It’s time to take this seriously. Increase government investment and fix the energy shortage.

You can practically hear the groans across the suburbs each Monday morning as Luxon whines “well, what I would just say to you is” before repeating the same old talking points on his weekly media round.

A highly critical assessment of Luxon so far, with a few good points raised. On my travels recently I've met several National voters who are unimpressed with him and say they won't be voting for him next year.

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#3405179 17-Aug-2025 09:49

quickymart:

A highly critical assessment of Luxon so far, with a few good points raised. On my travels recently I've met several National voters who are unimpressed with him and say they won't be voting for him next year.

Ooooh:

Have some guts – look them in the eye and see who blinks first.

Those are 'getting thrown out of parliament for being totally unacceptable' words!

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#3406047 21-Aug-2025 11:48

Laser focused...

Fletcher Building reports $419 million full-year loss | RNZ News

SkyCity Entertainment Group annual profit drops 42%, seeks $240m, selling $200m assets - NZ Herald

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#3410088 1-Sep-2025 11:14

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360808559/pm-brushes-latest-poll-showing-labour-better-favoured-deal-cost-living

On Monday, Luxon reiterated his argument that the cost of living was made worse by the previous Labour government, and that the Opposition’s approach would make the situation worse.

Eventually, the argument of blaming the last lot starts to wear thin (the election was almost 2 years ago), and voters will ask, "Well, what the hell are you doing about fixing it?"

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#3410105 1-Sep-2025 12:41

quickymart:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360808559/pm-brushes-latest-poll-showing-labour-better-favoured-deal-cost-living

On Monday, Luxon reiterated his argument that the cost of living was made worse by the previous Labour government, and that the Opposition’s approach would make the situation worse.

Eventually, the argument of blaming the last lot starts to wear thin (the election was almost 2 years ago), and voters will ask, "Well, what the hell are you doing about fixing it?"

Perhaps that block of cheese tax cut was not warranted.

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#3410560 2-Sep-2025 21:29

Newsroom looks for the story on the ground behind Luxon's $7.5B re-announcement:

Newsroom: "So, what of the $7.5b promised investment? The 1000 full-time equivalent jobs in the data region and supporting services? Today, Amazon insists this will still happen, but at NZ-owned competitor Catalyst IT, managing director Don Christie is sceptical. He reckons there will be a few dozen jobs at most. That’s because Christie says Amazon has simply installed its technology at data centres built by other firms – including Infratil-owned hyperscaler CDC. “How hard do you think it is to drop a few racks in a data centre and run what Amazon used to call an ‘outpost product’?” he asks. “They can do that for a few hundred thousand dollars.”

The article says the dedicated AWS build at Westgate was killed by high spot power prices.

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#3410566 2-Sep-2025 21:44

The build was killed last year and AWS was very quiet. They never replied to my queries, and today at the streaming event for journalists the NZ GM refused to answer where the zones were located, for "security reasons".

Also the 7.5 billion investment and 1,000 jobs were promised in Sept 2021, during the Labour government. The current government did nothing.

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#3410567 2-Sep-2025 21:58

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360809602/amazon-invest-75b-nz-create-1000-jobs

Labour leader Chris Hipkins said it was “an embarrassing faux pas” for the prime minister.
“He’s the FIGJAM Prime Minister. He spends so much time and energy claiming everything Labour did was wrong, now he’s claiming Labour’s achievements as his own,” Hipkins said, using the acronym meaning ‘F... I’m Good Just Ask Me’.
“I’m embarrassed for him. Labour was in Government when this began, and it is exactly the kind of investment we need. Not wealthy foreigners buying up New Zealand homes and driving up the price of houses for Kiwi families,” he said.

Hipkins sure is making hay on Luxon's "announcement".

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#3410622 3-Sep-2025 06:12

It takes between $1-$3B to construct a nation-wide cellular network including its datacentres, which employs between 1,000-2,000 people. I'd be very interested to know how even a giant AWS datacentre could cost $7.5B and create 1,000 jobs. I guess if you were building the site from scratch then about 1,000 people might have touched it at some point during the construction but most of them would be subcontractors brought in to do a specific bit. Ongoing operations for a data centre? Couple of dozen people assuming you wanted it manned round the clock and had Amazon level budget to splash around.

Overall I am very skeptical of $7.5B and 1,000 jobs.

I'm also quite wary of foreign-owned cloud services, especially since e.g. Microsoft reminded us again recently that if the US wants your data they will hand it over regardless of what your own laws say, but that's a separate issue.

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#3410626 3-Sep-2025 07:20

Here is the whole debacle starring the Prime Minister

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360810674/claims-and-counter-claims-amazons-non-announcement-announcement

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