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  #3175171 24-Dec-2023 12:07
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freitasm:

 

That's a bullshit analysis. The guy is saying "Let the voters be the judge" when prosecution for trying to overthrow the government should be decided in the courtroom, not in the ballot. 

 

 

Depends. Can Trump stall things past the point of the natural timelines of justice, or is it likely that something like this would otherwise take years to actually be heard (and appeals exhausted)?. That's probably key here. He can be president and still be convicted. Unsure to what extent he can pardon himself on this one given it's effectively an acknowledgement of guilt. 

 

The scramble to urgently push through with hearings (and getting it knocked back) probably feeds into the narrative he's creating - they're going after me because I can win again and they don't want that. Him being a victim of the swamp will matter more to his idiot voting base then whether he's actually guilty of the thing he supposedly did. TBH the Democrats and any Never-Trumpers need to be careful they don't end up legitimising him. It's pretty clearly not just going to go away. 


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  #3175180 24-Dec-2023 12:47
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Kyanar:

 

Of all the options, Haley is probably the least bad if Republicans get in. Ramaswamy wants to remove the vote from under 25s (because they vote Liberal too often - can't vote against him if you can't vote!), Trump is... well. And DeSantis is... well, pretty much the star of the Political Deplorables thread. Can't comment for Christie, they could be better.

 

I do find it exasperating that the Trump campaign is banging on about a "Soros funded left-wing campaign" - like, seriously, get some new material. You've beaten that dead horse into a bloody pulp already. And besides, the Biden campaign didn't launch the action, Republicans, who see Trump as the danger he is, did. (Or they just prefer one of the other candidates, whatever).

 

 

I'm inclined to agree with you - I think Nikki would actually be an okay candidate, but I don't think the MAGA crowd would agree, nor would they vote for her, being a non-white woman 🙄


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  #3175199 24-Dec-2023 12:57
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Tricky position for Haley which is why she rarely attacks Trump. The other candidates including Christie rarely attack Trump. It's hard to see how Haley will make ground on Trump. Haley seems to be making ground in some polls probably just because the other candidates on the podium are not viable.

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  #3175243 24-Dec-2023 17:30
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I thought Christie was almost a bulldog towards Trump? He probably thinks he has nothing to lose so he says what he wants - but that doesn't necessarily translate into a win at the polls.

 

https://www.wsj.com/video/watch-chris-christie-slams-trump-during-presidential-bid-announcement/52B3F106-8EA4-473C-B646-A4CC40EC6E75

 

 


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  #3175244 24-Dec-2023 17:44
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Sideface:

 

The Republican Accountability Project (RAP) - a group of Republicans opposed to Donald Trump - has just launched a new ad campaign in five battleground states that will run during popular Christmas programming.

 

 

"Donald Trump isn't running to be the next president; he's running to be America's first dictator. We can't allow him to get anywhere near the Oval Office again."

 

60 seconds 

 

I wonder if it's occurred to Donald that if he were to be re-elected, and followed through with his stated objective of becoming a dictator, in a country with 400 million guns in private ownership, he could be at a real risk from assassination. Ergo, might he move toward a strong level of gun control? For a guy with a stated fear of having veggies tossed at him, bullying the NRA might be a better option. 

 

 





'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

 

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government President.' Edward Abbey

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3175246 24-Dec-2023 18:22
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No, I think the NRA and all the other gun-toting nuts see him as usually being on their side, he wouldn't do anything negative towards them. Maybe just have settle for throwing carrots at him instead, because that's much more deadly than a bullet (lol).


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  #3175256 24-Dec-2023 20:11
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quickymart:

 

No, I think the NRA and all the other gun-toting nuts see him as usually being on their side, he wouldn't do anything negative towards them. Maybe just have settle for throwing carrots at him instead, because that's much more deadly than a bullet (lol).

 

 

Then he may have to settle for traveling everywhere in a tank. Personally, I'd prefer him to encourage the gun-loons and start cruising about in an open-top limo.





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  #3175320 25-Dec-2023 08:52
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Merry Christmas Donald!

 

 





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  #3175322 25-Dec-2023 09:03
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  #3175323 25-Dec-2023 09:11
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Lets hope it's not Merry Xmas President Elect Trump next year.

 

I'd much prefer he appeared in the 'Major Events in 2024' list as being the first ex-president jailed.


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  #3175327 25-Dec-2023 09:31
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Sideface:

 

Donald Trump's 'Merry Christmas' Message Is A Grievance-Filled Lump Of Coal

 

 

 

 

 

Ah, the Teflon Don is also clairvoyant. No wonder he's angry ðŸĪŠ





'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

 

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  #3175389 25-Dec-2023 12:04
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So if he does go to jail, can he still run as president? Apparently there's nothing in the Constitution that prevents it, I understand.


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  #3175393 25-Dec-2023 12:28
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quickymart:

 

So if he does go to jail, can he still run as president? Apparently there's nothing in the Constitution that prevents it, I understand.

 

 

Yes, he can still run as President. But only around the exercise yard.





'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

 

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government President.' Edward Abbey

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3175400 25-Dec-2023 12:38
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quickymart: So if he does go to jail, can he still run as president? Apparently there's nothing in the Constitution that prevents it, I understand.


Yeah, because some of the American forefathers weren't angels, contrary to the "God and Jesus anointed them" attitude of most Americans.

Below is some information from the very odd "Mises Institute". It's a think tank headquartered in the deep south Alabama, a radical libertarian thought, "right-wing paleolibertarian", "anarcho-capitalist movements".

"Radical libertarian" or "paleolibertarian" are where you think the GOP is too left-wing, and Republicans are woke.

Prepare yourself for a head-spin into way-out-there rigt-wingers.

Mises Institute: The Founding Fathers: Smugglers, Tax Evaders, and Traitors

During patriotic holidays, the news media applaud the Founding Fathers. But rarely does anyone mention some important facts about them: that they were smugglers, tax evaders, and traitors.

Not only is this important, it is also praiseworthy; it produced the most advanced civilization ever known.
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  #3175412 25-Dec-2023 14:27
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kingdragonfly:

Not only is this important, it is also praiseworthy; it produced the most advanced civilization ever known.
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Um, right. The most advanced civilisation ever known. This from the place where whiskey is the state drink, they marry their 14 year-old cousins, playing dominoes is illegal on Sunday, and a law had to be passed prohibiting wrestling with bears.

 

 





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