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  #1744214 20-Mar-2017 08:30
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joker97:

 

on the news the other day, Apple's NZ tax payment for 2016 was $0.00000

 

 

Prezactly. My feeling is that if Apple pays no tax in NZ, they should get no benefit from the things that taxes provide. Like police protecting their stores, Customs processing their goods, courts protecting their IP, etc.

 

 

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  #1744220 20-Mar-2017 08:44
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frankv:

 

joker97:

 

on the news the other day, Apple's NZ tax payment for 2016 was $0.00000

 

 

Prezactly. My feeling is that if Apple pays no tax in NZ, they should get no benefit from the things that taxes provide. Like police protecting their stores, Customs processing their goods, courts protecting their IP, etc.

 

 

 

 

So NZ should pay tax in the US for selling burger beef, in the UK for selling lamb, and in China for selling milk powder?

 

IMO the "problem" - if there is one - is that Apple tend to not pay much tax at all - anywhere. On that basis, the most ripped-off of all is probably California.

 

 

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  #1744237 20-Mar-2017 09:07
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Fred99:

 

frankv:

 

joker97:

 

on the news the other day, Apple's NZ tax payment for 2016 was $0.00000

 

 

Prezactly. My feeling is that if Apple pays no tax in NZ, they should get no benefit from the things that taxes provide. Like police protecting their stores, Customs processing their goods, courts protecting their IP, etc.

 

 

 

 

So NZ should pay tax in the US for selling burger beef, in the UK for selling lamb, and in China for selling milk powder?

 

IMO the "problem" - if there is one - is that Apple tend to not pay much tax at all - anywhere. On that basis, the most ripped-off of all is probably California.

 

 

 

 

I think Apple is an Irish company! Thats where they are corporate based and their dosh sits there or from there IIRC. They reckon they do oay their fair share of tax, bit maybe not to the US. And I assume the US tax laws make offshoring funds beneficial

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  #1744243 20-Mar-2017 09:11
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Trump approval rating (Source)

 

Heading in the right direction (IMO) though minor ups and downs are within the margin of error.

 

Still a way to go before full-scale panic sets in with the GOP and they turn on Trump and impeach him.  Not sure what that point would be, impeaching Trump would inflict a massive body-blow to the GOP. They also have the problem that VP Pence suffers charisma bypass surgery and is a committed religious nutter.

 

Nixon hit 25% approval rating before he quit.  Trump's clearly not going to be the quitting type.

 

 

 

 

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  #1744247 20-Mar-2017 09:19
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tdgeek:

 

 

 

I think Apple is an Irish company! Thats where they are corporate based and their dosh sits there or from there IIRC. They reckon they do oay their fair share of tax, bit maybe not to the US. And I assume the US tax laws make offshoring funds beneficial

 

 

Presumably it's fairly obvious that I'd be called a "liberal". However, the way that global corporates are able to legally evade paying tax on profits, and the distortions to "free" trade in goods and services that happen as a result, make me think that a system based on taxing income and profit is doomed.  

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  #1744248 20-Mar-2017 09:23
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What happened to the idea several years ago of taxation based on environmental loading?

 

 




Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 

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  #1744259 20-Mar-2017 09:36
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hmm i can't post - proxy needed or something

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  #1744260 20-Mar-2017 09:37
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hmm i can post! weird

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  #1744261 20-Mar-2017 09:37
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Re Fred 99

 

Let me make a prediction. Trump won't quit even if it hits 0%. In fact these are the likely things that will happen if his approval rating drops

 

- fake news

 

- fake pollls

 

- fake sources

 

- all made up

 

- last resort: ban the media and lock up the internet [not saying a judge won't overturn that, but he's known to come up with rather creative executive orders]

 

- if that fails, blame Obama

 

 

 

Edit: hey if only I knew how to make memes! I could be famous! although i never know the authors of memes when they reach my facebook ....

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  #1744309 20-Mar-2017 10:41
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joker97:

 

Re Fred 99

 

Let me make a prediction. Trump won't quit even if it hits 0%. In fact these are the likely things that will happen if his approval rating drops

 

- fake news

 

- fake pollls

 

- fake sources

 

- all made up

 

- last resort: ban the media and lock up the internet [not saying a judge won't overturn that, but he's known to come up with rather creative executive orders]

 

- if that fails, blame Obama

 

 

 

Edit: hey if only I knew how to make memes! I could be famous! although i never know the authors of memes when they reach my facebook ....

 

 

 

 

Why would he quit? he was legitimately elected under the current and well known (to Americans at least) electoral system in the US. The next time he is required to test his approval as President is November 3, 2020.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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  #1744311 20-Mar-2017 10:44
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joker97:

 

 

 

Edit: hey if only I knew how to make memes! I could be famous! although i never know the authors of memes when they reach my facebook ....

 

 

Meme of the day - my guess is "the honest republican".

 

I'm sure that there'll be opposite opinions "filthy unshaven liberal hipster buys trump hat, army pants, and placard to spread fake news"

 

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  #1744365 20-Mar-2017 11:13
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MikeB4: 

 

Why would he quit? he was legitimately elected under the current and well known (to Americans at least) electoral system in the US. The next time he is required to test his approval as President is November 3, 2020.

 

 

He won't ever "quit" IMO - it's not in his nature.  He'll need to be impeached, there's probably enough to start impeachment over foreign emoluments. "... no person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States], shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office or Title of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.”

 

There's also legal opinion that Trump's accusation of criminal behaviour by Obama (wire tapping claim) for which there is no evidence is "serious misconduct". Making allegations of criminality against any person *without evidence* is regarded as being serious misconduct if carried out by any government official, the highest official of the executive branch is not (or at least should not) be exempt.  Especially so if it sets precedent for a POTUS to subvert democracy by calling opponents criminals - without having to prove it.

 

That said, it probably won't happen unless either the republicans lose control of the house (possible in 2018) or the damning proof against him eventually becomes undeniable (as happened to Nixon). 

 

 

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  #1744377 20-Mar-2017 11:23
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My understanding is that to impeach there has to be a majority vote in the Capital for this to proceed. This will require a good number of Republican Representatives to "cross the floor", this currently would be doubtful. However if enough Republicans believe that they will get savaged in the 2018 House elections then they may well push the issue but I doubt that would be this year.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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  #1744403 20-Mar-2017 12:06
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joker97:

hmm i can post! weird



You can obviously post. What are you trying to post is what could be the problem.




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  #1744460 20-Mar-2017 12:52
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freitasm:
joker97:

 

hmm i can post! weird

 



You can obviously post. What are you trying to post is what could be the problem.

 

 

 

I quoted a post the other day and the comment box was then filled with a bazillion items of random letters and numbers instead of the table that the other person had inserted that I was quoting.

 

What's that all about?!





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